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Andrew vs. Ullis

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I know we're winning. I know it seems early to start "sounding alarms". But look at the facts : "In Kentucky's last five games, Ulis has gone 11-for-28 from the field, while producing 26 assists and just four turnovers (zero in the last three games).
During the same stretch, Harrison has gone 9-for-35 from the field with 27 assists and 15 turnovers."

That assist to turnover ratio can not go overlooked.

Realistically, at any other school I'm pretty sure Ullis gets the load of the work. I know this is Kentucky. I know this isn't "any other school", but we're striving for excellence and 26:4 vs. 27:15 combined with a significantly higher shooting percentage, not to mention a probably added defensive benefit with Ullis' pesky on ball ability is something no one can deny. (I know Andrew's length also shouldn't be over looked)

26 assist to 4 turnovers! That's the definition of GUARDING THE POINT.

Ullis looks like a true-point. I'm STILL skeptical of Andrew as a true point, and his record isn't showing he's a great scorer.
Sure, Andrew has tourney experience, size and a blood-counter part on the floor that the bond of can't be denied. But Ullis is a winner, he's fighting his tail off and doesn't look like he's concerned about anything other than the win (which is what you want).

I really don't expect Cal to make a change (at least not any time soon). Maybe it's better to keep Ullis coming off the bench so he has the benefit of a chip on his shoulder.

IMO our best lineup: Ullis, Aaron H., Booker, Karl, Willie

Ok... So we're pretty deep :)

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12154603/kentucky-wildcats-sticking-andrew-harrison-starting-point-guard-tyler-ulis?ex_cid=espnapi_public
 
What a pathetic troll you are.
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2 posts? You fail at life boy.
 
I'm all for letting Coach Cal establishing the lineup and coaching the team. Name a coach who can lay claim to a national championship, 2 final fours, and an elite eight within the last 5 years?

I dare say, he probably knows more about this team and how to develop a championship caliber team more so than any poster on this site.

Questioning the lineup is part of the clutter Coach Cal warned us about. IMO, we should leave it alone and let Coach Cal do his job.
 
Originally posted by jfinman:

I'm all for letting Coach Cal establishing the lineup and coaching the team. Name a coach who can lay claim to a national championship, 2 final fours, and an elite eight within the last 5 years?

I dare say, he probably knows more about this team and how to develop a championship caliber team more so than any poster on this site.

Questioning the lineup is part of the clutter Coach Cal warned us about. IMO, we should leave it alone and let Coach Cal do his job.
4 Elite 8's, 3 Final Fours, 2 championship games, and 1 title in 4 NCAA Tourney appearances at UK.

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I just feel fortunate that we have 2 great PG's that can guide this team any time against any team when we need them. What other team has that luxury?
 
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:

Originally posted by jfinman:

I'm all for letting Coach Cal establishing the lineup and coaching the team. Name a coach who can lay claim to a national championship, 2 final fours, and an elite eight within the last 5 years?

I dare say, he probably knows more about this team and how to develop a championship caliber team more so than any poster on this site.

Questioning the lineup is part of the clutter Coach Cal warned us about. IMO, we should leave it alone and let Coach Cal do his job.
4 Elite 8's, 3 Final Fours, 2 championship games, and 1 title in 4 NCAA Tourney appearances at UK.

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Amazing resume.
 
I don't spend my life on message boards. I'm just interested in what people think on the subject.

If you want to talk trash about the post go ahead, but it's a valid point.

Since I doubt Cal reads these message boards, obviously I'm not trying to tell him how to do his job.
This post was edited on 1/12 1:27 PM by UKHoops4life
 
4 Elite 8's, 3 Final Fours, 2 championship games, and 1 title in 4 NCAA Tourney appearances at UK.
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Great post. Thanks for correcting my faux pas. Coach Cal's record at UK is very impressive.
 
It isn't all about Ulis' offensive production. Seriously, Ulis has had bad games as far as shooting the ball goes as well. Ulis needed to be on the floor the most during the Louisville game, and he was.
Offensively, Ulis was fine in the Ole' Miss game, but defensively, he was getting burned pretty badly by a superior athlete on a hot shooting night. That's a situation where you have to go with your bigger, more experienced guard.
Last game, against A&M, their overall production was very similar, so really, I don't see why you're making this argument.
It's dumb. Really dumb.
This post is dumb. Really dumb.
This is a good basketball team. You're here, so be a fan of the team, or just don't speak. A bunch of college kids don't need your help telling them how well, or how bad they may be playing, they have a coach for that, and a d**n good one at that.
 
Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I know we're winning. I know it seems early to start "sounding alarms". But look at the facts : "In Kentucky's last five games, Ulis has gone 11-for-28 from the field, while producing 26 assists and just four turnovers (zero in the last three games).
During the same stretch, Harrison has gone 9-for-35 from the field with 27 assists and 15 turnovers."

That assist to turnover ratio can not go overlooked.

Realistically, at any other school I'm pretty sure Ullis gets the load of the work. I know this is Kentucky. I know this isn't "any other school", but we're striving for excellence and 26:4 vs. 27:15 combined with a significantly higher shooting percentage, not to mention a probably added defensive benefit with Ullis' pesky on ball ability is something no one can deny. (I know Andrew's length also shouldn't be over looked)

26 assist to 4 turnovers! That's the definition of GUARDING THE POINT.

Ullis looks like a true-point. I'm STILL skeptical of Andrew as a true point, and his record isn't showing he's a great scorer.
Sure, Andrew has tourney experience, size and a blood-counter part on the floor that the bond of can't be denied. But Ullis is a winner, he's fighting his tail off and doesn't look like he's concerned about anything other than the win (which is what you want).

I really don't expect Cal to make a change (at least not any time soon). Maybe it's better to keep Ullis coming off the bench so he has the benefit of a chip on his shoulder.

IMO our best lineup: Ullis, Aaron H., Booker, Karl, Willie

Ok... So we're pretty deep :)
Good luck with this post. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and got lambasted to the point the thread was locked. God speed.
 
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:
What a pathetic troll you are.
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2 posts? You fail at life boy.
I know..... This is so funny.... Do you think this is a Card, or an ESPN writer?



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OP WRONG premise. It will NEVER be A v. U. They are on the same team. It is;

Andrew & Ulis. Try that next time and come again troll.
 
Originally posted by BigBlueNation1979:


Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I know we're winning. I know it seems early to start "sounding alarms". But look at the facts : "In Kentucky's last five games, Ulis has gone 11-for-28 from the field, while producing 26 assists and just four turnovers (zero in the last three games).

During the same stretch, Harrison has gone 9-for-35 from the field with 27 assists and 15 turnovers."

That assist to turnover ratio can not go overlooked.

Realistically, at any other school I'm pretty sure Ullis gets the load of the work. I know this is Kentucky. I know this isn't "any other school", but we're striving for excellence and 26:4 vs. 27:15 combined with a significantly higher shooting percentage, not to mention a probably added defensive benefit with Ullis' pesky on ball ability is something no one can deny. (I know Andrew's length also shouldn't be over looked)

26 assist to 4 turnovers! That's the definition of GUARDING THE POINT.

Ullis looks like a true-point. I'm STILL skeptical of Andrew as a true point, and his record isn't showing he's a great scorer.
Sure, Andrew has tourney experience, size and a blood-counter part on the floor that the bond of can't be denied. But Ullis is a winner, he's fighting his tail off and doesn't look like he's concerned about anything other than the win (which is what you want).

I really don't expect Cal to make a change (at least not any time soon). Maybe it's better to keep Ullis coming off the bench so he has the benefit of a chip on his shoulder.

IMO our best lineup: Ullis, Aaron H., Booker, Karl, Willie

Ok... So we're pretty deep :)
Good luck with this post. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and got lambasted to the point the thread was locked. God speed.
So, I guess you morons expect Cal to actually bench Andrew Harrison in order to play Ulis 30+ minutes per game?

Good Lord. We have some total fools who pollute these boards.
 
Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I don't spend my life on message boards. I'm just interested in what people think on the subject.

If you want to talk trash about the post go ahead, but it's a valid point.

Since I doubt Cal reads these message boards, obviously I'm not trying to tell him how to do his job.
This post was edited on 1/12 1:27 PM by UKHoops4life
Of course you don't, this is just your 3rd post, and that proves it........... What are those mean posters talking about.....

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Originally posted by Gary4UK:
Originally posted by UKWildcats#8:
What a pathetic troll you are.
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2 posts? You fail at life boy.
I know..... This is so funny.... Do you think this is a Card, or an ESPN writer?



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It may be Metcalf, Medcalf, whatever the hell his name is...he needs more hits.
 
Thanks for the heads up. I'll probably stop reading replies shortly because apparently debate and insight isn't welcome here. I like Ullis' all around game better, I'm not the only person who thinks that. But I'm not Calipari... So I know nothing.

Hail Cal!
 
Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I don't spend my life on message boards. I'm just interested in what people think on the subject.

If you want to talk trash about the post go ahead, but it's a valid point.

Since I doubt Cal reads these message boards, obviously I'm not trying to tell him how to do his job.

This post was edited on 1/12 1:27 PM by UKHoops4life
If you can't find one of the many threads on this board that debates this ad nauseum then you're trolling. In fact, most of the threads don't even start out about this debate but it ends up turning into one eventually. The point is we don't need another thread talking about this topic. It's been beat to death.
 
You're definitely right. I agree with you. They're on the same team and working for the same goals. I totally see your point... I'm just comparing all around game.
 
Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I don't spend my life on message boards. I'm just interested in what people think on the subject.

If you want to talk trash about the post go ahead, but it's a valid point.

Since I doubt Cal reads these message boards, obviously I'm not trying to tell him how to do his job.
This post was edited on 1/12 1:27 PM by UKHoops4life
You registered an account for the purpose of introducing clutter. DIAF, troll.
 
In games where both Andrew and Ulis were playing, Andrew is averaging a whopping 4 more minutes of playing time per game than Ulis this entire season. (25 min vs 21 mins)

4 minutes.

Idiots.
This post was edited on 1/12 1:43 PM by The_Godfather
 
I'm glad everyone is so pro-team here. At least we can all agree on the fact that we want UK to win. The diatribe posted against my op is trolling.
 
Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I'm glad everyone is so pro-team here. At least we can all agree on the fact that we want UK to win. The diatribe posted against my op is trolling.
4 minutes.
 
Originally posted by UKHoops4life:
I'm glad everyone is so pro-team here. At least we can all agree on the fact that we want UK to win. The diatribe posted against my op is trolling.
Dude,
You come on this site like you are fooling people. There are posters here that have thousands of posts that are trolls. They aren't fooling anyone either. Figure it out and quit wasting your time like they are. Post like you mean to post and you will get a whole lot more respect than you are getting now. This board is fair. What they can tell in nearly an instant is a troll. I hope it doesn't take you a thousand posts to realize it. Just be yourself and quit trying to deceive....
This post was edited on 1/12 2:01 PM by BBUK
 
LOL.

OP, you don't have to try so hard to troll this board. We got guys with 5,000 posts who will do it for you.

And, your effort was beyond laughable. So exit out of this user name and start over.
 
At UK OP its "Two Platoons One Team" and we have a coach to figure out who plays and when...pitting one UK player against another will get you nowhere...
 
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