Between these two which will be the better player for UK ? Really have not seen to much of either one. Thought's
Aaron Bradshaw and Zvonimir Ivisic.
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I'm afraid we may be looking at another season where a first round pick is never quite ready to play a game for Kentucky. Hope I'm wrong.
Onyenso is my answer. But I think all 3 will be close!
Actually maybe my answer is whoever is cleared to play first (for more than 10min).
Big Z but only because Bradshaw is going the sharpe route
As you say, I hope you are wrong. But I must agree. I'll be shocked to see either log a minute this season. Not saying it won't happen or can't but I'm not expecting it.
Z.
Bradshaw is going pro even if he doesn’t play and “heals” all year. Bradshaw is going pro if he plays and has a very average to below average season.
Z came here bc he has been an NBA prospect since 16 but his draft prospect stagnated as a mid to late 2nd rounder overseas. Z came here for exposure to get into the first round. Not only is he more likely to play this season, but due to having already entered and pulled from the draft once, he’s more likely to have a year 2 if this season is average or below average.
Bradshaw is going pro even if he doesn’t play and “heals” all year. Bradshaw is going pro if he plays and has a very average to below average season.
Z came here bc he has been an NBA prospect since 16 but his draft prospect stagnated as a mid to late 2nd rounder overseas. Z came here for exposure to get into the first round. Not only is he more likely to play this season, but due to having already entered and pulled from the draft once, he’s more likely to have a year 2 if this season is average or below average.
Bradshaw got hurt in March in the McDonald’s AA game. Himself and Klutch sports denied the injury. He gets on campus in June and bam he is injured.
UK picks up the tab for the surgery and he gets access to our facilities.
Cal has to be getting kickbacks from Klutch sports.
UK picks up the tab for the surgery and he gets access to our facilities.
Cal has to be getting kickbacks from Klutch sports.
No way Cal survives that happening again.
I will be first in line to say "Fire JVC with prejudice" if that happens again. And the pressure on Mitch to find a buyout would ramp up exponentially, especially if we have yet another disappointing season.
There's a pretty real possibility neither of them plays. I wouldn't imagine, after a disappointing season, Cal would survive it.
For all the ones confidently saying Bradshaw Doesn’t play what info do you have to suggest that happens. There was one case in which that happened.
The Bradshaw talk is pretty fishy to me and no matter what anyone says, though I think most would agree, Cal is a notorious game player with injuries. He actually wasn’t like that until sometime after the 2015 team. Now he’s like Trump, if he’s saying it’s one way it’s almost certainly the other.
We are at the whim of the NCAA on Ivisic. Can’t put that on Cal, no reason not to bring ZV in. Cal still manages to put his foot in his mouth though. Hopefully Ugo is healthy because if he’s the only one we got, we’re gonna need at least 16-18 minutes from him.
We are at the whim of the NCAA on Ivisic. Can’t put that on Cal, no reason not to bring ZV in. Cal still manages to put his foot in his mouth though. Hopefully Ugo is healthy because if he’s the only one we got, we’re gonna need at least 16-18 minutes from him.
Yeah what most of you said.
Bradshaw is best in the scenario where he really is going 100% in practice and then really going 100% in at least 15 games of at least 20 mpg.
I don't see that happening. To do that Bradshaw would have to overcome:
--Fears and cautions of all significant involved doctors, trainers, coaching staff, family, posse worried about whether he can really go 100% in practice without risking hurting himself in a way that jeopardizes easily north of $100 million lifetime earnings
--All the real conditioning and learning challenges that he'd be facing, coming from behind, starting on whatever magical day that was that he ever actually really tried to go 100% in practice if that day ever really did come
--Same fears and cautions about practicing only this time make it about playing other schools, especially other D1 schools with huge bruising SEC post bodies intent on punishment
--Same real conditioning and learning challenges taking that 100% practice level intensity all the way up to 100% game level intensity, which is a much higher thing, all beginning on that first ever day that he actually made the decision to really try to go 100% in actual games if that day ever really did come
---*And then, remember, even if he powers through all of that, which seems unlikely, he's still got to work his way up FROM THERE all the way to where he is going at 100% in games including big games for at least 20 minutes every game, and then do THAT for long enough to shake off all the dust and learn his teammates and the system like the back of his hand and be really significantly useful to us in the big dance, which in my opinion is just pure fantasy to expect without at least 15 going-100% games already under his belt here.
I just can't look at this and say it looks particularly likely the guy is going to overcome all that. Not in the context of being on the men's basketball roster at The University of Kentucky these past five or six seasons.
I'm actually an optimist in most settings. Even an unrealistic optimist. But not That unrealistic.
Bradshaw is best in the scenario where he really is going 100% in practice and then really going 100% in at least 15 games of at least 20 mpg.
I don't see that happening. To do that Bradshaw would have to overcome:
--Fears and cautions of all significant involved doctors, trainers, coaching staff, family, posse worried about whether he can really go 100% in practice without risking hurting himself in a way that jeopardizes easily north of $100 million lifetime earnings
--All the real conditioning and learning challenges that he'd be facing, coming from behind, starting on whatever magical day that was that he ever actually really tried to go 100% in practice if that day ever really did come
--Same fears and cautions about practicing only this time make it about playing other schools, especially other D1 schools with huge bruising SEC post bodies intent on punishment
--Same real conditioning and learning challenges taking that 100% practice level intensity all the way up to 100% game level intensity, which is a much higher thing, all beginning on that first ever day that he actually made the decision to really try to go 100% in actual games if that day ever really did come
---*And then, remember, even if he powers through all of that, which seems unlikely, he's still got to work his way up FROM THERE all the way to where he is going at 100% in games including big games for at least 20 minutes every game, and then do THAT for long enough to shake off all the dust and learn his teammates and the system like the back of his hand and be really significantly useful to us in the big dance, which in my opinion is just pure fantasy to expect without at least 15 going-100% games already under his belt here.
I just can't look at this and say it looks particularly likely the guy is going to overcome all that. Not in the context of being on the men's basketball roster at The University of Kentucky these past five or six seasons.
I'm actually an optimist in most settings. Even an unrealistic optimist. But not That unrealistic.
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It's because we now live in a drama circus that Cal has somehow let Kentucky basketball become. It's not two or three concrete occurrences, but a culmination of a lot of smokey type situations. He has basically conditioned us to question and doubt every situation like this from now on. Sharpe was the culmination of distrust between Cal and a very sizeable portion of BBN.
All 21 ft will see the court this year at some point or the other
Who’s gonna do anything about it? You people that seem incredulous to this every year need to take off your big blue glasses. It’s time to come to the realization that this is nothing more than an NBA training camp. No kid comes here because of the pretty women, the horses, or moonshine. They come here to bounce right out in 8 months.
Probably the same ones who KNEW Dillingham would never make it to Kentucky.
FIFY
you’re welcome. 😉
I had my doubts admitted I was wrong but Bradshaw seems like he going to ply and really wants to
Aaron is paying for Sharpe's sins which isn't fair at all.
Ok. Fair point even if it is derogatory. Sounds more like you just want to put down the state and people. Buts let’s say you’re correct. Then it also holds true that players don’t want to go to Duke for the academics, brotherhood and righteousness. It would also be an NBA farm team.
Oh I think he really wants to, most competitors do, but he will not be allowed too. He’s not calling his own shots, klutch sports is and for some reason they have cal by the balls and are using UK just as sharpes camp did. Cal knows bradshaws never playing, same as he did with sharpe.
Good post except for the one-sided comment about Trump. Does Trump lie? Absolutely. Do they all, including Biden? Absolutely. You've historically been partisan when it comes to politics but you would gain a lot more credibility if you were actually actually objectively realistic in these discussions.
Are we really going to go political on this thread. Crooked Hillary has been for crying 6 years about losing. Biden is the worst and most corrupt President ever.
And Hopefully Bradshaw plays. Ugo we have to have for his rebounding. We need someone easy and playing by the Kansas game for sure.
The question I would ask is why does UK seem to be the only major program that seems to have this reccurent problem. Duke doesnt have it, nor KU or Uconn,nobody else in SEC has it. The answer is obvious, because Cal tolerates it, hell I believe he might even encourage it although I cant prove it. You think K or Roy or even somebody like Pearl would put up with this crap
Or certain members of the prior (Obama) administration orchestrating and spying on an incoming President’s campaign by illegally falsifying documents to the FISA courts to obtain warrants, and funding a fake Steele Dossier to attempt to subvert and takedown a duly elected President. Miss me with the democracy bs
No, I'll take storming the capital and twisting Pence's arm to throw out the electorial votes, hoping his handpicked supreme court would weigh in and keep him in power - which is what 3rd rate dictators in third rate banana republics pull. really, it's what they pull, --- and will really will go down in history as biggest bed wet of demorcacy ever and if you don't see it, it's because you're part of storming the capital cult. Did you get a tee-shirt at the gift shop?
