A little worried about this team

[Jireh]

I know it's early and I do believe we will get better. But I'm a little concerned. The last time we had a mass exodus was after the 2012 championship and we all know what followed. I'm not saying this team will implode like that one, but I'm not too sold on it either.

The backcourt I feel really good about. Even though they're not hitting a good percentage from deep I think they will. It's our front line that is really concerning. Lee is doing well but I'm just not sure we can be a great team if we are counting on him being a major contributor. Skal has worlds of potential but he's so thin and foul prone. Just not feeling great about him yet. Poythress - yes he's had back to back double doubles. But I think he is what he is. I don't look for him to make any kind of major strides this season.

If we're hitting 3's then I believe we can beat anyone. If we're cold against a decent team or if someone in our front court gets in foul trouble, we may be in trouble.

By the way, I'm not a troll. I'm a huge UK fan and have been for over 40 years. Just my honest observations.

 

[DY9ASTY]

No reason to be concerned. We are very good, accept it.

 

[Xception]

It's never too early to be premature .

 

[JerseyCat84]

We cant beat the Sixers this year.

 

[Bluest Member]

I know it's early and I do believe we will get better. But I'm a little concerned. The last time we had a mass exodus was after the 2012 championship and we all know what followed. I'm not saying this team will implode like that one, but I'm not too sold on it either.

The backcourt I feel really good about. Even though they're not hitting a good percentage from deep I think they will. It's our front line that is really concerning. Lee is doing well but I'm just not sure we can be a great team if we are counting on him being a major contributor. Skal has worlds of potential but he's so thin and foul prone. Just not feeling great about him yet. Poythress - yes he's had back to back double doubles. But I think he is what he is. I don't look for him to make any kind of major strides this season.

If we're hitting 3's then I believe we can beat anyone. If we're cold against a decent team or if someone in our front court gets in foul trouble, we may be in trouble.

By the way, I'm not a troll. I'm a huge UK fan and have been for over 40 years. Just my honest observations.

Get some Valium and a bottle of Wild Turkey 101

 

[Aike]

I remember. Our PG had a meltdown, a mid-major transfer played major minutes, and our best player went down injured for the season.

You're right. This is exactly the same so far.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Oh yeah, this team is so much like the 2012-2013 team that lost to Duke early on...oh wait. And yeah they are so much like them with Ryan Harrow at PG...oh wait, nevermind.

Calm down OP. I agree on the 3 point shooting, and the FT shooting at times...this team is gonna take some losses (although not any until 2016 IMO), but that is ok.

 

[Jireh]

I remember. Our PG had a meltdown, a mid-major transfer played major minutes, and our best player went down injured for the season.

You're right. This is exactly the same so far.

Reading comprehension is hard.

 

[kybassfan]

Way too early to panic. Alex is coming around. Ulis is exceeding expectations. Skal has a lot of work to do but offensively he's very accomplished. Lee is playing OK. Others guards are good but not close to their potential.

The gaps are primarily defense, positioning for rebounding and the realization that that ball is made of solid gold.

We're learning. We're also still undefeated. One game at a time.

 

[WildMoon]

I know it's early and I do believe we will get better. But I'm a little concerned. The last time we had a mass exodus was after the 2012 championship and we all know what followed. I'm not saying this team will implode like that one, but I'm not too sold on it either.

The backcourt I feel really good about. Even though they're not hitting a good percentage from deep I think they will. It's our front line that is really concerning. Lee is doing well but I'm just not sure we can be a great team if we are counting on him being a major contributor. Skal has worlds of potential but he's so thin and foul prone. Just not feeling great about him yet. Poythress - yes he's had back to back double doubles. But I think he is what he is. I don't look for him to make any kind of major strides this season.

If we're hitting 3's then I believe we can beat anyone. If we're cold against a decent team or if someone in our front court gets in foul trouble, we may be in trouble.

By the way, I'm not a troll. I'm a huge UK fan and have been for over 40 years. Just my honest observations.

2012-2013 started the season 4 - 3. We are currently 5 - 0, beating #5 Duke already. The teams we have played this season is also pretty good.

2012-2013 season actually were clear tourney team, so i'm not sure what you are worried about until major injury to our best player.

2012-2013 season had little to no bench.

2012-2013 season, excluding noel's injury, were littered with injuries as well. WCS out, Harrow in and out, and etc. We couldn't get steady rotation. For most of this season our rotation has been pretty set with 3 guard line up and Lee/Skal. Poythress will most likely move into starting rotation.

This team isn't 2011-2012 or last year's team right now...but this team can do a lot of good thing. We won by 20 today. That's fine, considering how much other top teams are struggling. We are extremely young, and many thing coach cal will polish before the season's end. Let's hope we get hot shooting streak during march/april, and we should be favored to make final four again!

 

[bigbluelou]

R-E-L-A-X

 

[Jireh]

Wow, judging by the responses you would have thought my original post was a desparate rant about the sky falling. I thought I calmly proposed a few legitimate concerns for discussion.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

Only on a UK message board can a team be ranked #1 at 5-0, coming off a 20 pt blowout and have this type of post.

 

[Jireh]

2012-2013 started the season 4 - 3. We are currently 5 - 0, beating #5 Duke already. The teams we have played this season is also pretty good.

2012-2013 season actually were clear tourney team, so i'm not sure what you are worried about until major injury to our best player.

2012-2013 season had little to no bench.

2012-2013 season, excluding noel's injury, were littered with injuries as well. WCS out, Harrow in and out, and etc. We couldn't get steady rotation. For most of this season our rotation has been pretty set with 3 guard line up and Lee/Skal. Poythress will most likely move into starting rotation.

This team isn't 2011-2012 or last year's team right now...but this team can do a lot of good thing. We won by 20 today. That's fine, considering how much other top teams are struggling. We are extremely young, and many thing coach cal will polish before the season's end. Let's hope we get hot shooting streak during march/april, and we should be favored to make final four again!

All good points. Thanks.

 

[hoodro]

This year if UK starts struggling against any halfway decent team and losing to the likes of Baylor in Rupp, then I'll start to worry.

The main thing that held the '13 team back from being what they could have been was PG play. We all know guard play goes a long way in the game of basketball, and that's something this year's team doesn't have to worry about.

 

[Poetax]

It's the way basketball goes with young players, they beat Duke, and fans say 40-0, play a game like tonight, and its a worry that we might make the NIT. This team will never be like the 2013 team with Ulis, but we also are not going 40-0. Cal will get these guys back in focus, right now, he had them thinking so much on fight and battle that our offensive game has become a secondary thought. When Cal gets them to battling and fighting without him screaming it every second, he will get back to practicing offense and hopefully instead of them making 500, he should change it to 1000.

 

[caneintally]

LOL the OP is outta his mind .

 

[Deli owl]

Just

 

[WeWant9]

Guard play wins games come march, and we got one of the best backcourts. We still have room for tons of improvement on defense. I think well be decent when it's all done on that end, but well have our growing pains.

 

[Aike]

Reading comprehension is hard.

Unfortunately, I read it. You're one of those guys looking for something to complain about.

Boohoo. All Poythress does is get double doubles. Weh.

Better?

 

[Kycatspaws]

R-E-L-A-X

 

[truth79]

Here we go

 

[IL Wildcat]

No worries Jireh. There are reasons to be concerned, without a doubt. I don't see many similarities between this team and the 2012-13 team though. There are some rival fans who have tried to make that idea stick, just for propoganda purposes, but it fails when put up against the facts. I don't think that is your thinking, of course. We lost a bunch of players that year and we did before this season as well. We had a juco that season and we have one this season. There are some similarities for sure.

Tyler Ulis is a huge difference between the teams. Ryan Harrow was one of those guys Cal is referring to when he says, "UK isn't for everyone." He had a meltdown in November and never really recovered.

We didn't have anyone the caliber of Poythress returning. By the way, I don't think we should just say "he is what he is." I mean, sure, that's true, but it's no negative. He's moving forward game by game. Tonight was his best game yet. I think he's still not fully back from the ACL. But he's getting closer.

We lost Noel mid-SEC that year also. People seem to forget that. If Noel had stayed healthy, that team would have been an NCAAT team easily and who knows how they may have finished. Remember, the Knight team lost a bunch of league games but finished strong and went to a Final Four. Losing Noel killed any chance of that since he was clearly the best player on that team.

Other concerns:
Free throw shooting
3pt shooting
Thin front court

I'm not worried about the shooting. I think it will come. All our guys have good form. It's just a matter of time.

The thin front court played pretty well tonight. Labissiere is struggling on defense at times but he scored 16 points and had 7 rebounds tonight and was fairly efficient in doing so. He's getting better defensively each game out. And I don't have the same misgivings about Lee as you. I'm sure that's a personal preference as much as anything. I agree that Lee isn't ever going to be a big time scorer but he can give energy, defense, rebounding, shot blocking, and scoring on easy buckets. He's the guy who is what he is, but I think we know that and it's ok.

I agree with you that there are areas of concern. If this were February or March I'd be very worried. Heck, if this were the end of December, it would worry me. So I hear you. We've got time.

 

[c1doc]

Willis, Hawkins and Mathews would have got major playing time on that team... Hawkins probably would have started.. Come to think about it, Mulder might have started at 2G with Archie at the Wing....

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Every healthy Cal team gets better as the season progresses. Even the '13-14 team that most of us quit on came alive in tournament play and were a few made free throws from becoming national champions.


Will we ever learn?

 

[ymmot31]

 

[Hoskins91]

Yeah, the shooting needs to get much better, and it's getting to the point where it's hard to write off.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Why are you worried. Maybe the team will progress and get a lot better or maybe it won't be our year. Enjoy the ride and stop worrying.

 

[crawfords corner]

Instead of acting like whiny b!tches about the OP why not articulate some reasons why you feel he is wrong or is just being a wannabe dbag the best schtick one can come up with. We will be fine. This is a young team still learning it's way around each other. As Coach says, It's a process.

 

[TruBluCatFan]

Wow, judging by the responses you would have thought my original post was a desparate rant about the sky falling. I thought I calmly proposed a few legitimate concerns for discussion.

You lost most people with the 2012-13 comparison.

 

[-LEK-]

We're a spoiled fan base. Last years team was historically great. Probably best team since 96. We have a good team this year, with a sold shot to win a NC, but we're not the juggernauts of last year. We're going to lose some games.

Doesn't mean the wheels are falling off.

 

[jedcat]

I'm usually personally a worrier, although I don't post it on here, but in my mind if we can score 82, while being really bad from three-point range and the free throw line, if those issues and the defensive/rebounding issues improve, we can be really good.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

I know it's early and I do believe we will get better. But I'm a little concerned. The last time we had a mass exodus was after the 2012 championship and we all know what followed. I'm not saying this team will implode like that one, but I'm not too sold on it either.

The backcourt I feel really good about. Even though they're not hitting a good percentage from deep I think they will. It's our front line that is really concerning. Lee is doing well but I'm just not sure we can be a great team if we are counting on him being a major contributor. Skal has worlds of potential but he's so thin and foul prone. Just not feeling great about him yet. Poythress - yes he's had back to back double doubles. But I think he is what he is. I don't look for him to make any kind of major strides this season.

If we're hitting 3's then I believe we can beat anyone. If we're cold against a decent team or if someone in our front court gets in foul trouble, we may be in trouble.

By the way, I'm not a troll. I'm a huge UK fan and have been for over 40 years. Just my honest observations.

Poythress is what he is? The man has gotten countless big time rebounds in big time games..I'm not sure what your concern is. He's also a good defender.

Otherwise, I'm not concerned about anything. We will lose some games (which is enough reason for people to contemplate suicide) but they should make a pretty good run at the end of the year.

 

[Big Cat fan]

It's just that this team doesn't do well in the half court game and are bad at the ft line for the most part. I think it will get fix, I see our guard scoring when they want to. But I think they don't drive it as they should. I hope the 3 point shooting comes around. I really thought we would be a great shooting team, yet I haven't see it. Seems we still lose guys off of screens as well

We're gonna have to clean it up.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Defense overall is going to be down this year, because of the rule change.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Tyler Ulis vs Ryan Harrow

That is all.

 

[KYCAT78]

This team passes the eye test the other team being discussed not so much. Look at our guards then versus now, noy even close.

 

[*CatinIL*]

I always hear that good guards win titles and we have some some really good ones so I think they will be fine. I think this team will have a stinker type game in the SEC but they'll be ready by tournament time.

 

[Blue Decade]

It's never too early to be premature .

+1

 

[Nubb16]

Tyler Ulis vs Ryan Harrow

That is all.

More like Ulis vs Jarrod Polson.

Harrow was "dealin with it" that season, remember?


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