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The Reds decision to extend a qualifying offer to Martinez was a no brainer. $21 million for 1 year was a great deal in this years free agent market, and he absolutely could have gotten more had he gone elsewhere. That also would have landed the team an extra draft pick, so it was a calculated risk.

He’ll come around and be a big contributor this year. And if he doesn’t, he still has plenty of trade value. I hate wasting money in free agency, but that’s just not the case here.
 
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The Reds decision to extend a qualifying offer to Martinez was a no brainer. $21 million for 1 year was a great deal in this years free agent market, and he absolutely could have gotten more had he gone elsewhere. That also would have landed the team an extra draft pick, so it was a calculated risk.

He’ll come around and be a big contributor this year. And if he doesn’t, he still has plenty of trade value. I hate wasting money in free agency, but that’s just not the case here.
To whom much is given, much is expected. There are no excuses for the poor starts he has had as the highest paid player on the roster. He has got to do better than 2 runs in 5 2/3 innings vs the under .500 Marlins which still falls below a quality start. Would have received a compensation pick after the 1st Round with team control down the road by letting him walk, and allow them to better utilize their assets signing a hitter. The Reds never learn from these mistakes by making the wrong players their highest paid. Whether it was a good deal or not at this price doesn't change the fact the money between his contract and wasting $45 million on Candelario would have filled bigger weaknesses on this roster. The starting rotation is not one of them. $37 million this year between the two would have been better spent on a slugger in the outfield.

Lean on your depth of talented young arms, and sign offensive weapons that help this team win. An aging pitcher on a one year deal at that price with poor performances isn't very appealing on the trade market, and probably won't fetch the Reds much more than what they got for Frankie Montas from the Brewers. Especially if the Reds are hoping the other teams absorb the contract in a salary dump. I highly doubt he had much better offers to make more money from other teams as there are no reports that indicate he was offered more, so this is why he came back. Nick was the only player that accepted a qualifying offer last year. Martinez practically found himself in the same scenario two years in a row in the offseason.
 
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Every time the Reds take a step forward, they take two steps back. This was a very frustrating series. They better sweep the Rockies who have won 4 damn games all year.
They're at risk of not doing that. High scoring game tonight.
 
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The start to this series while being a Reds win was a bit Rocky (pun intended). Abbot struggled as did the relief.
 
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To whom much is given, much is expected. There are no excuses for the poor starts he has had as the highest paid player on the roster. He has got to do better than 2 runs in 5 2/3 innings vs the under .500 Marlins which still falls below a quality start. Would have received a compensation pick after the 1st Round with team control down the road by letting him walk, and allow them to better utilize their assets signing a hitter. The Reds never learn from these mistakes by making the wrong players their highest paid. Whether it was a good deal or not at this price doesn't change the fact the money between his contract and wasting $45 million on Candelario would have filled bigger weaknesses on this roster. The starting rotation is not one of them. $37 million this year between the two would have been better spent on a slugger in the outfield.

Ok, Mr GM.


I’m handing you $37 million this year. Looking back, which outfield sluggers would you have signed?
 
Ok, Mr GM.


I’m handing you $37 million this year. Looking back, which outfield sluggers would you have signed?
I don't even need $37 million to land any one of these players below. Plenty of outfield options considering the production Martinez and Candelario combined are giving the Reds at that price. Hernandez, Conforto, O'Neill, Santander (making $9 million after hitting 44 HR/102 RBIs in 2024) were all some of the big names on the outfield market with solid career numbers, and making less than Nick/Jeimer combined. There is another tier below that would have been cost-friendly for the Reds and been an upgrade that have had decent careers while bringing veteran leadership to a young team. They alone won't carry the Reds, but would complement one of the above. Hays fits here. Other options were Mark Canha, Max Kepler, Randal Grichuk, Kevin Pillar, David Peralta & JD Martinez.

Here's a crazy idea, send some of the surplus of infield prospects that are going to be blocked by the current infielders without a clear path to a starting job, and acquire an outfielder via trade while the previous club is eating the salary in exchange for some top prospects. Josh Naylor one of the hottest names on the trade block this offseason, the Diamondbacks went after Naylor, plays OF/1B. Kyle Tucker from the Astros before the Cubs landed him. I am intrigued by the 5-tool young outfielder Colorado has with Brenton Doyle. Josh Lowe of the Rays. Taylor Ward of the Angels, or Jorge Soler would have brought some massive power into GABP.

The Reds are not in position to be throwing away money on players with marginal careers like Candelario, and make Martinez their highest paid player for a hot run in half a season without it negatively impacting the Reds spending. Still waiting for you to show us which offers Nick received that would have paid him more than Cincinnati.
 
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Serious question, M4Cat: do you follow baseball?

Your criticism, fairly, is that Nick Martinez and Jeimer Candelario suck and are overpaid. Your solution would be to sign….

Teoscar Hernandez = he made it very clear he only wanted to be a Dodger
Michael Conforto = .187 w/2 home runs
Anthony Santander = .182 w/2 home runs
Tyler O’Neill = .215 w/2 home runs


Those were the big money, prize free agent outfielders this winter. And THAT is your solution??
 
Serious question, M4Cat: do you follow baseball?

Your criticism, fairly, is that Nick Martinez and Jeimer Candelario suck and are overpaid. Your solution would be to sign….

Teoscar Hernandez = he made it very clear he only wanted to be a Dodger
Michael Conforto = .187 w/2 home runs
Anthony Santander = .182 w/2 home runs
Tyler O’Neill = .215 w/2 home runs


Those were the big money, prize free agent outfielders this winter. And THAT is your solution??
Don't even mention those players in the same conversation as Jeimer Candelario and Nick Martinez if you can't acknowledge they have a much better track record throughout their MLB careers. Not one of them are being paid more than Nick Martinez. Pointing out they have had slow starts doesn't somehow change the fact Nick and Jeimer have too and excuse their poor performances. Obviously you don't follow Major League Baseball. If you did, you would know that those players career numbers are much better than this. Otherwise, they would not have gotten the contracts that they did. Conveniently, you skipped right over the solution I suggested to trade for a star outfielder with prospects within the farm system. This is how small market teams acquire players they would not otherwise sign on the free agent market. I mentioned very reasonable players that would help the Reds like Josh Naylor, Kyle Tucker, Brenton Doyle and Jorge Soler.

2024 - Conforto 20 HRs, 66 RBIs. If he sucks as you suggest he does, why would the World Series champion Dodgers bring him in to start?
2024 - Santander 44 HRs, 102 RBIs. All-Star, Silver Slugger, 14th in AL MVP votes.
2024 - O'Neill 31 HRs, 61 RBIs. 2-time Gold Glove award winner.

Jeimer Candelario sucks. Nick Martinez needs to live up to the contract as the highest-paid Red. Nick isn't a lost cause, but Jeimer Candelario there are zero reasonable arguments for him to have ever been signed. This signing coming right after eating Moose's contract they owed him through 2023. Still waiting to see that offer from another team that offered Martinez more than $21 million. I absolutely believe the money they paid Martinez would have been better spent upgrading the outfield, or saved back to sign one of our own to a contract extension. The latter I have beat this dead horse over and over here. I'm not big on the idea of Martinez who isn't a part of the long term plans, potentially leaving Lowder in Louisville when he did nothing to warrant a demotion because they don't have spot for him. Chase Burns is rocketing through the system at a pace faster than Rhett in 2024. He very easily could be in the rotation before September. Last year I defended Nick in the Reds thread, but he is held to a higher standard now with that contract as the highest paid player. When you are paid more than Hunter Greene, you need to be pitching as good or better than Greene. Cincinnati is very fortunate HG signed a team-friendly 6 year extension in 2023.
 
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10 pitches that exceeded 100 MPH.

 
I don’t think the Reds ever intended to bring Martinez back, they wanted the comp pick and thought he’d declined the QO. If Lowder is healthy and ready to go, move Martinez back to the pen and get rid of Giblow for good
 
M4 just isn’t dealing in reality. This years outfield free agent class was weak. The top signees have mostly been awful this season, and the Reds would be significantly worse off with any of them weighing down the franchise right now.

You did list a bunch of bargain basement vets, but those guys are out there for a reason. They’re old. They’re way past their prime. They’re very limited. And they still cost a bit of money. Harrison Bader will cost the Twins at least $8 million, for gods sake. So until you can find some way to build a great outfield out of $20 or $30 million, I’m going to stick to my stance that you’re a fool.


And while we’re at it…..Nick Krall got Gavin Lux for nothing, TJ Friedl for nothing, and Austin Hays for nothing. Those 3 combined make $9 million, and they’ve been pretty solid so far.
 
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M4 just isn’t dealing in reality. This years outfield free agent class was weak. The top signees have mostly been awful this season, and the Reds would be significantly worse off with any of them weighing down the franchise right now.

You did list a bunch of bargain basement vets, but those guys are out there for a reason. They’re old. They’re way past their prime. They’re very limited. And they still cost a bit of money. Harrison Bader will cost the Twins at least $8 million, for gods sake. So until you can find some way to build a great outfield out of $20 or $30 million, I’m going to stick to my stance that you’re a fool.


And while we’re at it…..Nick Krall got Gavin Lux for nothing, TJ Friedl for nothing, and Austin Hays for nothing. Those 3 combined make $9 million, and they’ve been pretty solid so far.
Your childish remarks and name calling when your argument falls apart doesn't help your case when someone challenges your opinion. I gave the FO credit on the Austin Hays signing, but he alone does not fix the entire outfield. Yes, Lux has been a blessing and if you read my posts here I give credit where it is due. Criticize when it is warranted. We have that right as fans and don't have to kiss the ass of leadership for every single move they pull off for a franchise who has been to the postseason once over the past 11 years since they fired Dusty after winning 90 games. I figured you were never going to back your claim up and find us one contract offer from another team that would have paid Martinez more than $21 million this year.

Honestly, Krall has made some really good trades, and I think he maximizes the talent in return during fire sales on players like Castillo, Bauer for Puig, and curb stomping Minnesota for Mahle. His choice in free agent signings when the Reds can spend is where he has came up short. You obviously don't get it, had the Reds not tied up the $37 million this year on a washed up 3B, and a expensive aging pitcher when they have SP depth, an outfielder could have been signed this year. Hell even the year before with a deeper pool in the OF FA market when Moose, Votto and Griffey's deferred contract came completely off the books. You can't tell me there isn't at least one legit star that could not have been brought in on $37 million a year. Even giving one of our own like Stephenson, or put back for EDLC on an extension that helps the Reds win in the future. Much more better usage of their assets than Candelario or Martinez. Especially with a 1st RD compensation pick on the line. I'll say this, I hope Martinez gets it turned around like last season for the Reds sake and I will come here and give him credit for doing his job after a good start. It is absolutely fair to criticize your highest paid player for bad games when they are the weakest link in the starting rotation this year. Nick's last start vs Miami considering the competition was better than his previous ones. Candelario absolutely needs to go ASAP, and let Marte and Lux man 3B, 1B for CES when healthy and Steer starting to play 1B again. Maybe even revisit Stephenson some at 1B when he is not catching/DH, so long as Wynns and Trevino are producing with the latter being one of the best back stops in the game.

I listed those "bargain basement" players where Hays falls into this category as realistic options that are affordable which Cincinnati could have signed. Two of these level players with Nick's money alone could have been signed, and helped the Reds everyday rather than once every 5 games. We're never going to be in the running for your Aaron Judge or Mookie Betts tier of outfielders. There was a major player in this outfield FA class, but I did not mention him before for obvious reasons, Soto. Big market teams like NYM get him, Cincinnati should have been able to land one of the next tier. These "bargain basement" options were still better than the likes of Benson, Dunn, and we never know which Jake Fraley is going to show up. When he is right and hitting the ball, Fraley would be a good DH and the Reds can replace him in the field with someone that will shore up the defense in RF. They are stop gaps until the Reds can bring up outfielders like Carlos Jorge, Hector Rodriguez, Ethan O'Donnell and Adolfo Sanchez. You can say whatever you want about those top signees with a track record one year into said contracts, but there is always the trade market to land someone else that you seem to forget where the Reds can improve their team. The Reds don't have to take on the entire salary in a trade with another team with the right prospect haul going the other way. Toronto gave the Reds $9 million dollars toward the aging Scott Rolen's contract, Cincinnati got the leader they needed until Frazier was ready. Blue Jays got one of the most lethal power hitters over the course of a decade in Encarnacion.

Regardless who was on the FA market, the Reds outfield has needed an upgrade since they lost two All-Star starters in Winker and Castellanos. I believe the Reds are one star impact bat away from being a dangerous team, and the outfield happens to be the weakest spot on the roster. Certainly not the infield here or in the pipeline. They have the prospects to go make that deal, regardless what they are paying Candelario/Martinez.
 
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Noelvi Marte continuing this stretch driving in Lux after Gavin's RBI double. Marte two SBs, a double steal with Fraley.
 
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Despite it being the Rockies, this has been a great start for Lodolo in the altitude of Coors Field. Struck out 9 in 7 shutout innings. 2 hits and 1 walk allowed. Sadak say Candelario is 5 for his last 65? Keep Marte in the lineup from here on. Had another hit, an RBI double. Hustled all the way up to first for an infield hit and drove in another run.
 
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Swept the Rockies and are now 2 games over .500 with the Cards coming into Cincy tomorrow night. The Cards on the road are bad this year (2-11). Only team worse is the Rockies (1-14). Let's hope Martinez can get his first win this year with how weak the Cards are playing.

OH yeah, the Bat Cats took their first series at home this year with a win over SC this afternoon as well. Good baseball weekend for me with the Reds going 3-0 and the Cats going 2-1.
 
Cincinnati schedule through May. St. Louis and Washington on this homestand. Braves in Atlanta, they are under .500 at the moment. Astros are like the Reds, hovering around .500. Reds did go in there and sweep Houston on the road two years ago. Hope it happens again. White Sox, Cleveland at GABP. They will get a huge test playing the Cubs twice. On the road in Pittsburgh and Kansas City.
 
M4: you’re the GM and it winter 2024. I hand you $37 million and tell you to go build an outfield. Who would you have signed?
 
M4: you’re the GM and it winter 2024. I hand you $37 million and tell you to go build an outfield. Who would you have signed?
There are multiple options the Reds could have explored, so this will be another long post. I will give the FO credit on Hays. That was a nice signing late in the game. That is $5 million guaranteed in the bargain basement options. Considering the Reds have the $37 million already tied up to Martinez/Candelario, they spent $5 million on Hays and $3,325,000 on Gavin Lux in arbitration. That would be $45,325,000 between Martinez/Candelario, and Hays/Lux as the outfield additions the Reds made over the offseason.

Forget the $45,325,000, even though that is what the Reds would be working with. An outfield can still be built from $37 million. I know you aren't high on this guy, but Anthony Santander in GABP despite the slow start, only $9 million. I would absolutely take him on as an All-Star that hit 44 HR, 102 RBIs. Those numbers in GABP are probably more like 50 HRs and over 110 RBIs. Let me add that he hit .208 last April, and still managed to win the silver slugger award in 2024.

$28 million left. We can do Austin Hays, $5 million here, and reaching a deal with the utility player Lux in arbitration for $3,325,000 despite them already being on the Reds actual budget. Just mentioning Hays & Lux here since they did not have them yet going into the winter of 2024, and working within the $37 million. I like these two additions, and would build with them on the team. The contract of Hays, Santander, and Lux combined is just $1,325,000 more than Jeimer's $16 million to go on 5 for 65 droughts. There is no way in hell they can pick up his $18 million club option in 2027.

$19,675,000 left. Our outfield is Hays, Santander, Fraley, Friedl, Dunn, Lux via trade and signing in arbitration. A great trade by this FO.

You could take a chance on adding another outfielder in tier two from the options previously discussed and expect that they will play to their career numbers despite slow starts. Or sign Tyler O'Neill to shore up the defense for $16.5 million. That would leave the Reds with $3,175,000 left out of the $37 million. I much prefer going for a better option through the trade market and utilize our prospects. An option the Reds could explore today despite their budget with the contracts of Martinez/Candelario. If you don't sign anyone else like O'Neill, back to $19,675,000 that can go towards paying down contracts for players in trades, or put back to sign extensions. We have some very important players like Stephenson, Lodolo, and Lux among other key players in arbitration still at the end of the season.

We heard rumors of the Reds and Kyle Tucker. The Cubs sent prospects and did not have to pay Houston a cent towards his contract. Tucker's contract is $16.5 million like O'Neill, if the Reds did this trade and decided to take on the entire contract for the year. He's probably more of a rental player, but affordable if the Reds wanted to win now in 2025.

Brenton Doyle is another player I wouldn't mind to see traded for. 5-tool player. 23 home runs, 72 RBIs and 30 stolen bases. Two gold glove awards and he is only starting his 3rd season. He has been out of lineup some due to being on the bereavement list this year. Team control through 2028.

Josh Naylor, plays 1B/OF. Heard his name rumored with the Reds this offseason. That dude can absolutely rake. All-Star last year, 31 home runs and 108 RBIs. Good start to the year hitting .301, 4 HRs, 17 RBIs. Arizona traded one talented pitching prospect and a compensation pick in this year's draft.

Jorge Soler, wouldn't be my first choice but that guy has some raw power that would be intriguing in GABP. Angels got him for a pitcher with a career 4.70 ERA, Griffin Canning. Reasonable addition for a small market team. Under contract for next year too.

These were obtainable players last offseason, and they can still make an offer for Doyle. It doesn't have to be any of these players. There are 29 other teams full of players. Brad Meador and Nick Krall can call around to find one. It has been 35 years since the last World Series. I would be fine if the Reds pushed their chips in like the Royals in 2015 to win the World Series. Imagine had this happened. A lineup with Santander's 2024 production, Kyle Tucker added via trade for prospects like the Cubs did, EDLC taking the next step forward with lineup protection and putting it together for an entire year, along with Marte continuing to build off this last week, Stephenson, Hays. Would just need to get McLain and CES playing up to their potential. Same with a player like Steer at DH putting up the numbers he did in 2023 who was better this past week. Still have options like Lux and Friedl. The strength of the starting pitching if they stay healthy and continue at this rate. There would be some money left for a reliable setup man before Pagan. These moves wouldn't even deplete the farm system.

Multiple options for starting outfielders depending on the roster built going into the winter of 2024. My starting OF would be Santander, I would go the trade route for a star OF with one of (Tucker, Doyle, Naylor & Soler), Kyle would be awesome, any of the other 3 would work. If the Reds did not go the trade route, 2nd outfielder would be Tyler O'Neill with his defense/30 HR potential, and Friedl is my 3rd outfielder. A legitimate case can be made for Hays, Friedl, Lux or Fraley as the 3rd starting outfielder with 2 star outfielders already in the lineup. Anyone of them can get in at DH. There is no reason an outfield like this could not happen within the $37 million, and utilizing the farm system. The silver slugger Santander stays in the lineup with his power. ($9 million for 44/102 is hard to pass up). If the lineup prioritizes defense, Tucker, Doyle or O'Neill is the 2nd outfielder, 3rd Friedl. The offensive lineup with Santander's power, (1 of Tucker, Naylor), and Hays as the 3rd outfielder.

Even if the Reds went with those two free agent additions (Hays/Santander) with what they have, I believe the OF picture looks better. Hays can't do it all being their best option in the outfield as it stands today. An outfield of TJ Friedl, Austin Hays, Jake Fraley and Gavin Lux may be alright if they are all playing at a high level and healthy. Consistency and staying healthy is an issue. Is it a serviceable outfield if all is going well for them? Sure. Will you win and advance in the postseason? Not unless the Reds bring in someone else to carry the lineup. They all are good 3-4 outfield options if you have a strong outfield like the Reds did with two All-Stars in 2021, Winker and Castellanos. Still trying to replace them 4 years later. Naquin benefited from playing with them, I think our current guys would benefit if they improve the lineup with better outfielders. IMO, they are an impact bat away like Votto was in his prime from being dangerous. The outfield happens to be the weakest link where they need to acquire a star player to carry the team during a slump.

Here is where I get frustrated by the front office. Trade some prospects. We have infielders right now with Steer, Marte, EDLC, McLain, Lux, CES, Espinal. We have some top 150 prospects with infielders Edwin Arroyo, Cam Collier, Sal Stewart in the infield who will likely be ready in 1-2 years. I believe that Sammy Stafura and Tyson Lewis have the potential to be stars at the MLB level too. Where are all of them going to play?

Also, other top 100 prospects with the pitcher Chase Petty. The rotation already has Hunter Greene, Nick Lodolo, Brady Singer, Andrew Abbott, Nick Martinez, Rhett Lowder when he is back, and Chase Burns rocketing through the system. HG, Lodolo, Lowder and Burns will be a lethal 4 in the starting rotation possibly as soon as this year. The Reds have 6 options already with MLB experience, and Chase Burns could easily force his way into the picture in 2025 for 7. Several recently drafted College arms that won't take as long to develop through the pipeline as a HS pitcher, Luke Holman and Ty Floyd, not to mention Adam Serwinowski graded higher than they are. Only naming some of the organization's best prospects. Likely even more that reach the MLB level. I'm not saying all of these prospects are going to be All-Stars. The good thing about prospects, they won't have to be proven All-Stars for a trade when it is about their potential. Move some of them to help the Reds win now by acquiring a proven star, and don't waste this window before the next fire sale.

Cincinnati could choose one of their pitchers currently on the active roster. Singer, Martinez or Abbott, and package them with top prospects where the Reds have depth in to go get a star outfielder. I don't believe a one for one swap of Singer, Martinez or Abbott will bring them an All-Star outfielder. Singer and India was an even trade at the time with the Reds benefiting from the deal more. Martinez would have to go on the 2nd half run he had in 2024 starting tomorrow night against St. Louis for teams to be interested in taking on his expensive, expiring contract by the trade deadline. If there was team control and the contract wasn't so expensive, he would be easier to move and get something back. I have nothing against Martinez personally, but as the highest-paid player comes high expectations. With a month gone, he needs to start performing now like he did last year that got him this contract. I hope to be on here tomorrow night saying he pitched good and the Reds won. Jeimer can't get out of here soon enough. I knew this contract would be bad, and even MLB Network analysts said at the time the Reds paid more than he was worth. Abbott I am higher on than most here seem to be. If he is your 5th starter behind Greene, Lowder, Lodolo, and Burns. That is a great rotation, especially for the price the Reds are paying them.
 
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He keeps saying Anthony Santander makes $9 million. Technically, yes, but he signed a 5 year $92 million contract. And he’s currently hitting .179 with 3 home runs. He’s horrible defensively, too.

I can’t read the rest.
 
During Candelario's last at bat yesterday, TV said he was 5 for last 65 with 23 strikeouts. Hell, I am nearly 65 years old, but think I could do that. At the very least, I would only have 5 less hits.
 
Candelario was 29 years old and coming off a career year when the Reds signed him to that absurd contract. I mean, it's almost like throwing money at players in free agency is a risk or something. This is the very reason I'm so hard on dudes like M4 who think you can just fix your problems by spending money over the winter. It's not the annual salary that kills the franchise, it's the multiple years of the contract.
 
He keeps saying Anthony Santander makes $9 million. Technically, yes, but he signed a 5 year $92 million contract. And he’s currently hitting .179 with 3 home runs. He’s horrible defensively, too.

I can’t read the rest.
Obviously we’re never going to agree on the subject. You don't like it when anyone disagrees with your opinion and can back up their stance. Santander would absolutely be affordable with a 5 year, $92 million contract over 5 years considering where $37 million is spent in one year. Forget ever mentioning him as there are additional players that can improve the Reds outfield. If the Reds FO were doing all of the correct moves to put the franchise in a position to win, there would be more than 6 winning seasons out of 19, with only four postseason appearances. Cincinnati should be able to plug and go from within the farm system after trading stars away as often as Tampa Bay does so that these rebuilds aren’t so arduous each time. Even Cleveland during the Francona years with 9 out of 11 winning seasons. Last year with Vogt in his first season for another team like TB with an overall budget less than the Reds over the years who are not spending it wisely. I expect players to live up to the contracts that they were given. I hope Nick Martinez gets it turned around like he did last year after going to the bullpen, and dominates St. Louis tonight as he is paid to do.
 
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Candelario was 29 years old and coming off a career year when the Reds signed him to that absurd contract. I mean, it's almost like throwing money at players in free agency is a risk or something. This is the very reason I'm so hard on dudes like M4 who think you can just fix your problems by spending money over the winter. It's not the annual salary that kills the franchise, it's the multiple years of the contract.
I made a very reasonable post. Just because you don't think so doesn't make it true. You can't have a discussion with anyone that challenges your opinion, and then result to a straw man fallacy. Civil discussions are not your strong suit. You completely ignore the concept of the trade market being a legitimate option that small market teams can pursue to improve their team, and "throwing money" wouldn't even be on the table if you trade prospects. You misconstrue the posts to make it seem like I said the only way to fix the outfield is by throwing money away in free agency, yet I found a way that can be done without using half of the $37 million by incorporating the trade market.

Defending the Candelario signing coming off a career-year with the money tied up over the course of years contradicts the rest of your post when you said it is the amount of years on a contract that kills a team. That was literally Santander last year, except he was coming off a much better season than Candelario during a contract year who also is a poor defender. At no point will he make more than the Reds are paying Candelario in any single year of his contract. You could forget Anthony Santander since you continue to harp on the silver slugger's sub .200 avg a month in by exploring the trade market. Forget any of the free agents on the outfield market, wouldn't have to touch a dime of the $37 million to improve the outfield while keeping Martinez/Candelario by making a trade. Not unreasonable, nor unrealistic.

I hope the Reds are in contention at the trade deadline. If not, don't want to listen to one of you all here back peddling and whine about the FO not doing their job over the winter or lack of moves at the deadline.
 
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Who is your publisher?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry, I'm just very passionate about the Reds and prefer to back up my posts with logical reasoning. I don't need to misconstrue posts or be a contrarian to get my point across.
 
Friedl .294
McClain .157
EDLC .270
Lux .333
Hays .388
Marte .364
Steer .300 (last 7 g)
Espinal .288
Wynns .433

Greene 2.70 ERA, 43 K in 36 IP
Lodolo 2.25 ERA
Singer 3.62 ERA, 4-0
Abbott 3.60 ERA, 2-0
Martinez 5.40 ERA, 0-3

Bullpen 3.57 ERA (top 12 in MLB), 9 SV (T-6th)

Team tied for the last playoff spot.

We really just need McClain and Martinez to break out of their respective funks, like Steer has. Get Stephenson back. Maybe give Lowder a shot.

I'll be damned if I read 10,000 words on Anthony Santander.
 
Friedl .294
McClain .157
EDLC .270
Lux .333
Hays .388
Marte .364
Steer .300 (last 7 g)
Espinal .288
Wynns .433

Greene 2.70 ERA, 43 K in 36 IP
Lodolo 2.25 ERA
Singer 3.62 ERA, 4-0
Abbott 3.60 ERA, 2-0
Martinez 5.40 ERA, 0-3

Bullpen 3.57 ERA (top 12 in MLB), 9 SV (T-6th)

Team tied for the last playoff spot.

We really just need McClain and Martinez to break out of their respective funks, like Steer has. Get Stephenson back. Maybe give Lowder a shot.

I'll be damned if I read 10,000 words on Anthony Santander.
A post about the Reds, not just Santander would have went above your head just like PTI anyways.
 
Nick Martinez with a great start tonight, which isn’t a surprise to me. I’m really glad we have that guy this season. Anyone own Nick Martinez stock and want to sell? I’m buying.
 
Nick Martinez with a great start tonight, which isn’t a surprise to me. I’m really glad we have that guy this season. Anyone own Nick Martinez stock and want to sell? I’m buying.
I'll give Martinez the credit he deserves after his best start all year tonight. He pitched a damn good game. Lux's bat came through, 3-4 at the moment.
 
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Some of these guys are going to cool off, but I’m convinced CES and McClain will be major contributors this season. Add in Lowder and we’re really cooking with gas.

Bandwagon’s full, though. All you doubters like M4 can suck it.
 
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