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shaq, duncan, curry top 10
kg, kobe, pedo mailman, barkley top 15
ray allen top 30
pierce, carter, davis top 50
rest top 50-75
iverson my favorite nba player on the list by miles but objectively he was extremely inefficient
Regarding Carter, you got to give him “extra credit” IMO for how long he played too. Dude was in the league for forever.I really liked Iverson too. Me and a buddy were talking about some of these guys. Some of them i just kind of threw in there.
But we were talking Kyrie vs Iverson. Shaq vs Kobe and a few others.
I was thinking he way overvalued Irving.
I always kind of felt Iverson was never given much to work with in Philly.
He has Irving and Iverson both in that top 50 range though and i disagreed. Was curious if i was crazy or if he was on that one. I just can’t put Irving top 50 all time at this point.
i’m always curious what people think about Carter too. He started off so strong and seemed to fall off quick. I can’t remember if he had injury issues. I know early in his career he got that “next jordan” label.
AI- top 40Just like…rough estimate top 5/10/15/25 etc.
Allen Iverson
Kyrie Irving
Shaq
Kobe
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
Steph Curry
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Carmelo Anthony
Anthony Davis
Vince Carter
Pretty accurate imo. I’d prob move AI to top 50 instead of 40…and Ray Allen is arguably top 50 as well. The rest I don’t think make the top 50 cut. Good to really good players in their era but in the entire history of the game I don’t think they truly leave a mark. Can find guys like that every 5-10 yearsAI- top 40
Shaq- top 10
Kobe- top 15
Duncan- top 10
KG- top 30
Malone- top 20
Barkley- top 20
Curry- top 15
The rest are outside the top 50
Here's my all-time list.Just like…rough estimate top 5/10/15/25 etc.
Allen Iverson
Kyrie Irving
Shaq
Kobe
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
Steph Curry
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Carmelo Anthony
Anthony Davis
Vince Carter
He's top 30-40.Dominique is so underrated
This! Also, should’ve been on that Dream Team IMHO.Dominique is so underrated
Didn't he tear his ACL? Otherwise he would have been on the team.This! Also, should’ve been on that Dream Team IMHO.
I’d drop Kobe to top 10 instead of 5 and I’d swap Garnett with Steph. Otherwise this list is 👌🏻Kobe top 5
Shaq and Duncan top 10
Garnett and Malone top 15
Steph top 20
Barkley top 25
Iverson top 30
Carter and Pierce Top 50
Allen and Kyrie top 75
Carmelo top 100
AD who knows. Top 10 when he's healthy and playing well. Top 200 otherwise. He needs to finish his career strong.
You know, he very well may have. That sounds familiar to me.Didn't he tear his ACL? Otherwise he would have been on the team.
Bill Russell at 15,really. Kevin Garnett in front of Larry Bird. Lebron ahead of Wilt Chamberlian.Cant see it. Ca4l Malome is top 10 easilyHere's my all-time list.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. LeBron James
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Hakeem Olajuwon
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
7. Magic Johnson
8. Kevin Durant
9. Larry Bird
10. Tim Duncan
11. Oscar Robertson
12. Shaquille O'Neal
13. Steph Curry
14. Karl Malone
15. Bill Russell
16. Jerry West
17. David Robinson
18. Charles Barkley
19. Elgin Baylor
20. Dirk Nowitzki
21. Isiah Thomas
22. Kevin Garnett
23. Allen Iverson
24. Julius Erving
25. John Stockton
None of the other guys on your list would even be in the top 50, except Anthony Davis.
Kyrie stands out as one isn't like the othersJust like…rough estimate top 5/10/15/25 etc.
Allen Iverson
Kyrie Irving
Shaq
Kobe
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Karl Malone
Charles Barkley
Steph Curry
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Carmelo Anthony
Anthony Davis
Vince Carter
I’d drop Kobe to top 10 instead of 5 and I’d swap Garnett with Steph. Otherwise this list is 👌🏻
My list
1 MJ.
2 Chamberlian
3 Russell
4 Robertson
5 Jabbar
6 Johnson
7 Bird
8 Bryant
9 James
10 Maloane
11 O'Neal
12 Duncan
13Hakeem
14 Havelichek
15 Erving
16 West
17 Curry
18 Stockton
19 Dirk
20 Stockton
21 Baylor
22 Barkley
23 Garnett
24 Elvin Hayes
25 Wes Unseld
Multiple sources say he benched around 600 pounds, and Schwarzeneggar has said several times that Wilt was stronger than him and could lift him with one hand/arm.delusional, he was a caveman compared to modern players
he waved the ball above his head while cutters traipsed through the lane unmolested and nobody even thought about a hard double
yeah he’d beat shaq or duncan in the decathlon. doesn’t really speak to your contentions about his era of basketball
“Wilt Chamberlain was indeed the most dominant player ever.” - ShaqMy list
1 MJ.
2 Chamberlian
3 Russell
4 Robertson
5 Jabbar
6 Johnson
7 Bird
8 Bryant
9 James
10 Maloane
11 O'Neal
12 Duncan
13Hakeem
14 Havelichek
15 Erving
16 West
17 Curry
18 Stockton
19 Dirk
20 Stockton
21 Baylor
22 Barkley
23 Garnett
24 Elvin Hayes
25 Wes Unseld
yeah he’d beat shaq or duncan in the decathlon. doesn’t really speak to your contentions about his era of basketball
You definitely got the top 2 right.Here's my all-time list.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. LeBron James
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Hakeem Olajuwon
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
7. Magic Johnson
8. Kevin Durant
9. Larry Bird
10. Tim Duncan
11. Oscar Robertson
12. Shaquille O'Neal
13. Steph Curry
14. Karl Malone
15. Bill Russell
16. Jerry West
17. David Robinson
18. Charles Barkley
19. Elgin Baylor
20. Dirk Nowitzki
21. Isiah Thomas
22. Kevin Garnett
23. Allen Iverson
24. Julius Erving
25. John Stockton
None of the other guys on your list would even be in the top 50, except Anthony Davis.
He's top 4 all-time, but he's not #1.“Wilt Chamberlain was indeed the most dominant player ever.” - Shaq
“In my eyes, Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest basketball player ever.” - Pippen
“Repeat The List, man! Repeat The List: ‘Wilt, Me, Mike.’ Say it with me!” - Kobe
“You see now all the records that guys are trying to break. Wilt Chamberlain is always the first name on the list. Always humming behind the scenes.” — K. Durant
“Flat out Monster and ridiculously/freakish athlete!! Would be dominant in any era — point blank.” - LaBron
“He cast a shadow of accomplishment that will never be achieved by another player.” - David Stern
“Wilt was unbelievable. He was really a superlative athlete, and I think it’s really lost on people, these days, because they don’t see that very often.” - Kareem
“I would love to see (Wilt) play against some of these centers today. It would be pretty embarrassing for them, to be candid with you.” — Jerry West
“There will never, ever, be another Wilt Chamberlain.” - Magic Johnson (who used to frequently play pick-up games against him)
“He was so freakin’ athletic. I mean he woulda been able to play in any era.” — Embiid
“Well, I stepped in on Wilt again, and he just picked me up and moved me out of the way. And that was it. When he picked me up, here, and put me down, over there…. I thought he was the baddest.”
= ⬆️ That was a quote from Bob Lanier (6’10.5”, 250lbs), when asked about the time Wilt “really scared” him.
“He stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor, with my feet dangling. It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking.” - KC Jones
“He lifted me up, with one hand, like nothing,” Schwarzenegger said. “They (Wilt and Andre The Giant) were so powerful. It was ridiculous.”
Wilt was benching 465 lbs at age 59 — Shaq’s greatest amount lifted, even in his prime, was said to be 460, but Shaq himself says it was actually 475, so we’ll go with that.
Here is a useless, but sorta amusing, video comparing the physiques & jumping abilities of 50 y/o Wilt vs. 50 y/o Shaq.
Size & height comparison video #1: Shaq & Wilt & Patrick Ewing standing side-by-side
Size & height comparison video #2: Walton, Wilt, Shaq, Russell, Kareem, all standing together
Schwarzenegger, who was Mr. Olympia seven consecutive years, says his best bench, ever, was 525. Shwarzenneger said he saw Wilt bench 500, in 1984, while filming, “Conaan: The Destroyer”. Wilt would’ve been 48 y/o then.
Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson’s max bench was 425-450 lbs
Dwight Howard reportedly benched 365.
LeBron’s max is unclear, but was said to have been 405. (It could’ve been more than that, but idk.)
Ben Wallace’s reported max: 460 lbs
Several folks said they saw Wilt lift around 600 pounds, at various times throughout his life, and Wilt also claimed, “Around 600” pounds.”
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LeBron is 2nd, all-time, in 30+ point games, with around 535, in 1,421 games played.
MJ and Wilt got to right around that same number (as LeBron’s around 535) in approximately 360 fewer games.
MJ is first, with 562, in 1,072 games.
And Wilt is third, with 516, in 1,045 games.
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And, UK-related:
Most 30+ point games in 2023:
45: Shai-Gilgeous-Alexander
44: Embiid
44: Doncic
42: Tatum
39: Antetokounmpa
33: Lillard
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Most consecutive NBA games averaging 40+ points:
1st: Wilt, with five hundred and fifteen consecutive games (515)
2nd place: 33 by Elgin Baylor
3rd place: 23 by Kobe
4th place: 22 by Rick Barry
5th place: 19 by James Harden
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In the 1957 NCAA Championship game, UNC defeated Kansas by one point in triple overtime (their 2nd-straight, triple OT win of the tournament), and their strategy against Wilt was to double- and triple-team him, and slow the game down, to counter his speed, athleticism, and field-goal-shooting skills. Toward the end of his life, Wilt almost didn’t return to Lawrence when KU tried to honor him. He told the crowd he was ashamed he hadn’t won them a title. It was expected. His KU coach, before the season, had told the media, “You give me Wilt Chamberlain and four cheerleaders, and we’ll win the NCAA Tournament.”
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Boston’s strategy against Wilt was to not have Russell guard him one-on-one, but to double- and triple-team him, and sometimes have one player focus on hitting Wilt’s hands with their fists. Wilt sometimes had hands so swollen he couldn’t hold onto the ball. One of the players who was told to punch at Wilt’s hands said, “People think fouls in today’s games are hard, but when we played Wilt, those were REAL fouls.”
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And finally, in regards to living in Wilt’s shadow, how would you like to be KU’s #1-ever points-scorer Danny Manning — a guy who scored 2,951 collegiate points (almost more than any other guy in college history, and 813 more points than UK’s most-ever points-scorer, Dan Issel [though Issel only played three seasons, compared to Manning’s four, and Issel WAS clearly capable of scoring 800 in a season]), and (anyway), with you being Danny, imagine you’ve just won the 1988 MOP Award in a super-fast-paced championship game (it was tied 50-50 at halftime), where you led a bunch of scrubs to a championship, and you finished with 31 pts, 18 rebounds, and five steals, and this was your second Final-Four (the first one you lost in 1986, when stupid Louisville, a team you’d already beaten twice that year, won it all, and you barely lost in the Final Four to Duke after one of your players tears his ACL in the game, and you also lose because the refs kept ignoring Jay Bilas’s goaltending, but I digress…), yet, even after all your career points and your ‘88 championship and the ‘86 Final Four, and your Naismith Award… STILL, the best you’ll EVER be in KU fans’ eyes is SECOND-best guy school history (second to Wilt). I guess you’ll always have the awards and championship, but you’ll never be the world-wide legend that Wilt is. How does that feel? But then further… as you’re still imagining you’re Danny, how would you like to later find out that a FEMALE basketball player actually scored a LOT more career points (at KU) than either you OR Wilt?! (Wichitan Lynette Woodard scored close to 3,700 points at KU. After leaving KU, Lynette was hired as a Harlem Globetrotter. Wilt was actually a Harlem Globetrotter, too, after KU and before joining the NBA.)
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To help UK fans put some perspective on Wilt’s ability, Wilt played 40 fewer collegiate games than three-time All-American Kyle Macy, yet scored more points.
I pretty much agree with you. I don’t know that he was necessarily the greatest of all time. Good chance he wasn’t. But his stats, and videos, and witness accounts, as well as what good players and coaches say …all factor in to helping us all figure out — for ourselves — where he MIGHT be ranked.He's top 4 all-time, but he's not #1.
Two titles has a lot to do with that. Winning at the highest level of the sport matters.
But I get it. If I was a Kansas fan, I'd probably try to create an argument for Wilt being the greatest of all time. After all, he is at least in the discussion and he was incredible.