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What's your guys lineup gonna be?

May 2, 2008
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KU fan here. Just love CBB. Was wondering what you guys think it'll be.

I'm going with

Skal
Poythress
Willis
Briscoe
Ullis

Bench -
Lee not starting for forward depth reasons.
Matthews
Mulder
Hawkins

I think a big blow was Dakari going to the NBA. With Dakari, Lee and Skal that interior D wouldn't miss a beat
 
Either Matthews or Mulder will start in place of Willis. The other will be the first wing off the bench. Lee will be the first big off the bench.

Hawkins will play in the back court when there is foul trouble, or we need a defensive boost. Willis will have a chance to earn minutes as a stretch 4. He isn't a 3.
 
Ulis, Briscoe, Mathews, Poythress, and Skal.

Bench
1. Hawkins (Who, btw, was a backup in our run to championship two years ago)
2. Mulder ...don't know anything about him... But if he can shoot hawkins might not see much minute.
3. Willis backing up Mathews/Poythress
4. Lee backing up Poythress and Skal.

To be honest, we are deeper than i thought.

Coach Ulis and Briscoe will need to be extremely hard on our players this summer. Could be very exciting season or stressful depending on the summer.
 
So

Skal
Poythress
Mulder
Briscoe
Ullis

That's very solid

Yes it is. If we are healthy, we should be right there in the mix for the title. Just don't see any prohibitive favorite next year...should be several teams fighting it out.
 
If Willis is good enough to start over mulder/Matthews then we may have a squad.

He seems to have a decent stroke and above average athleticism. Now he needs to put in the work and not muck up when he gets his opportunity.
 
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KU fan here. Just love CBB. Was wondering what you guys think it'll be.

I'm going with

Skal
Poythress
Willis
Briscoe
Ullis

Bench -
Lee not starting for forward depth reasons.
Matthews
Mulder
Hawkins

I think a big blow was Dakari going to the NBA. With Dakari, Lee and Skal that interior D wouldn't miss a beat
What do you know...a Kansas fan coming to our board because we had some recruiting misses.
 
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On the point about Dakari: I'm not confident Cal will sign Murray but I am confident he will get a serviceable and thick interior player for spelling Skal and flexibility. They are fliating around out there as 5th year transfers. Honestly, that's the role Dakari would have had, and whoever Cal signs will come close to replacing his value as a bench player.

Not doubting you, but what graduate transfer big men are out there that are still on the board? Only one I knew of was Thorne, and just like Oriakhi several years ago he didn't want to split minutes at the 5 or only be a back-up.
 
What do you know...a Kansas fan coming to our board because we had some recruiting misses.
Kansas fans have to put up with some of our loonies that permeate their boards. This particular KU fan seems cool. Post here anytime Phog08.
 
Starters:

1 - Ulis
2 - Mulder
3 - Briscoe (Briscoe at the 3 instead of Mulder because Briscoe being the biggest, strongest guard of all of them. 6'4, 210#. Matches up better with a true SF than the others.)
4 - Poythress
5 - Labissiere

Bench:

4/5 - Lee
2/3 - Matthews
3/4 - Willis
1/2/3 - Hawkins
2/3 - Jonny David (walk-on that joined up not long ago. Averaged 18.5 in high school, had a few ivy league offers. 3 point specialist)

Curious to see if anybody else is added. Wouldn't mind having another shooter, maybe 2.
 
Ulis - Hawkins/Briscoe backups
Briscoe - Matthews/Mulder/Hawkins/David backups
Matthews/Mulder/Willis - whoever is playing the best, other two will be the backups
Poythress - Lee/Willis backups
Skal - Lee backup
 
So

Skal
Poythress
Mulder
Briscoe
Ullis

That's very solid

Yeah IMO only UNC and KU will have equally good starting line ups . Duke has great guards and wings but is total empty inside as Jeter is sooooo overrated. He is 6'8 and lives way below the rim . IF he had signed with Ole Miss or the like he would be barely a top 50 player IMO. KU , UNC and UK are the 3 contenders next year with Duke and Michigan St the next best 2.
 
I'm a Kansas fan but I'm also a college basketball fan. I root for KU but I follow dozens of teams. I enjoy talking about teams with their fans. Thanks U9K

My point is you wouldn't be here had we landed everyone on the Board we expected to land. Carry on....
 
LOL no just no. Poy is a PF . He will play more at C next year then he does at SF unless we add Maker .

I hate when people say this. Hate. As if Poy has no experience at the 3. If a positive match-up presents itself (i.e., a team has a small 3, or their 3 is too big for anything else we can put out there), Poy will go in there. Whether or not he becomes a small forward, and gets a ton of minutes at the position depends on two things. Has his ball handling improved in the year that he's been off since his injury to that point, and has his jumpshooting improved.
And quite frankly, his jumpshooting doesn't have to improve out of the gate, but it can quite a bit. MKG couldn't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag, and he helped carry UK to a title game, really off of 2 things.

1. Defense (Poythress is already the best defender on the team, and was last year before his injury, imo.)
2. Energy (We've seen energized Poythress, and we all expect energized Poythress now. It's his senior year, minutes are his for the taking, and he came back with something to prove.)

Where Poy and excel over MKG if he makes the positional change:
1. He is much, much more of a physical presence than MKG was, and at the SF position, with his size, speed, and athleticism, he would be the biggest physical presence at the position in all of college basketball)
2. Matches up with bigs better than MKG could.
3. Just a better athlete than MKG. Hard to argue, being that Poythress is the gold standard for an athlete. 6'8, 245#, incredibly fast, powerful, has ridiculous hops.

If he gets his ball handling down, Poy has potential to leap to one of the elites in CBB at SF, where he can really impose his physicality.
 
Rhavicc, sorry, but I don't think Poy at the 3 is in the cards.

1. We are terribly thin in the front court and need him there.

2. MKG was a prototype 3 with terrific handles among other attributes. Not reasonable to expect a senior Poythress who has been sitting out for months to suddenly become a ball handler. He's a finisher.

Could Poythress get minutes at the 3 situationally if we are getting abused by a team with size? I guess. But who are those teams?

With the roster in place today, Ulis, Briscoe, Matthews, and Mulder need to get the 1-3 minutes. Hawkins should see spot duty at least.

Poy getting anything more than nominal time at the 3 probably means that either Matthews or Mulder didn't pan out - in which case we are thinner than we think.
 
Rhavicc, sorry, but I don't think Poy at the 3 is in the cards.

1. We are terribly thin in the front court and need him there.

2. MKG was a prototype 3 with terrific handles among other attributes. Not reasonable to expect a senior Poythress who has been sitting out for months to suddenly become a ball handler. He's a finisher.

Could Poythress get minutes at the 3 situationally if we are getting abused by a team with size? I guess. But who are those teams?

With the roster in place today, Ulis, Briscoe, Matthews, and Mulder need to get the 1-3 minutes. Hawkins should see spot duty at least.

Poy getting anything more than nominal time at the 3 probably means that either Matthews or Mulder didn't pan out - in which case we are thinner than we think.

While we're thin in the frontcourt, I think ultimately, we're going to do what wins the most games, and if Poy is able to present matchup problems, then he may be there despite depth. His injury kept him from getting any mobility up until late January. By then, he was posting videos on instagram of him making big, athletic dunks. With him not having to worry about filling roles on a team, and scrimmaging, it at least gave him a lot of time to work on the two things that he was definitely still able to do, which is dribble and shoot.
We would have beaten Wisconsin with Poythress at the 3 last year, and nobody can convince me otherwise. He's locked down Dekker before, and I have little doubt that he would have done it again.
My hope is that if Poy does get normal time at the 3, it's because of his improvements in those 2 areas. We don't need him to handle the ball like Ulis or Briscoe, because Justise Winslow didn't do that, Stanley Johnson didn't do that, Sam Dekker didn't do that, really, few small forwards do handle the ball like that. He just needs a steady, solid ball handle, and let his physicality work out the rest.
 
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1. I may be wrong, but I think those posts of Poythress dunking were from before the injury. I don't think he was dunking like that a month or two post injury.

2. You are downplaying the abilities of the guys you mentioned. Winslow routinely took rebounds coast to coast. Did you happen to see Decker's nifty step back three against us?

3. Once again, we have a total of 4 players on the roster to play the 4/5 and one (Willis) is a big question mark.

We had the opposite situation this past season...which is what necessitated Poy playing the 3. He's more natural at the 4. We need him at the 4. He will play the 4.

4. Would have been nice to have Poy available to check Decker. How many teams on our schedule next year will have a frontline comparable to Decker/Hayes/Kaminsky?

Like I said, you could see Poy at the 3 situationally. Hard for me to see those situations popping up very often.
 
I wish we could play Kansas and Louisville every year in the tourney. Then we'd have 20-30 titles by now...
 
7 man rotation:
Ulis
Briscoe
Mulder
Poythress
Skal
----------
Guard off bench - Matthews
Big off bench - Lee
Fouls trouble players - Willis, Hawkins

Calipari prefers to play a 7 man rotation like the one above. That is still a top 10 team.
 
1-Ulis
2-Briscoe
3-Matthews
4-Poythress
5-Skal

Off the bench
1)Lee, for Poy or Skal depending on fouls/fatigue
2)Mulder, for Briscoe or Matthews depending on fouls/fatigue
3)Willis, at the 3 or 4. Fatigue, foul trouble, or need of an extra shooter on the floor. Tho his game is more similar to Trey Lyles than it is Kyle Wiltjer.
4)Hawkins, as an occasional defensive specialist or severe foul trouble..

Our top 7 will all play 25+minutes, Willis somewhere around 10 mpg, and Hawkins won't exceed 5 mpg on average.

Just my take. I'm pretty content with that setup.
 
I think it is yet to be determined whether Lee or Willis starts.
Cats have to find offense somewhere and it looks like Willis
have more offensive potential but he still has to show it in
practice.
 
Starters
G Ulis(5'9 SO)
G Briscoe(6'4 FR)
G Mulder(6'4 JR)
F Poythress(6'8 SR)
F Labissiere(6'10 FR)

Key Reserves
6th Lee(6'9 JR)- starter minutes.
7th Matthews(6'5 FR)- competes for the starting 3 spot with Mulder.

Bench
G Hawkins(6'2 JR)
F Willis(6'8 JR)
G Floreal(6'4 JR)
F Wynyard(6'10 FR)(second semester- maybe)

Cal probably adds at least one more player, probably a wing scorer.

If not, we have to hope that Mulder and/or Matthews step up to fill the 3 spot.

At least we have some options. Most schools would be ecstatic to have two 4-star recruits coming in to compete for a starting spot, but we are a little spoiled lately.
 
Ulis
Briscoe
Mulder (for more offense) Matthews (for more defense)
Poythress
Skal

Lee will rotate in with Alex/Skal
Hawkins will rotate in with Ulis/Briscoe

Willis will play limited minutes unless huge strides are made this summer imo (and I'm a Willis fan)

btw, the fact this roster has been the subject of such criticism from some on this board is completely laughable. This team will compete.
 
I think it is yet to be determined whether Lee or Willis starts.
Cats have to find offense somewhere and it looks like Willis
have more offensive potential but he still has to show it in
practice.

It's highly unlikely that Willis starts. He probably does not play much, IMHO.

If we need more offense, then expect Mulder to start.

If we want better defense, then it's likely Matthews.

If we want size, it will be Lee with Poy and Labissiere up front.

I see Hawkins starting in a small lineup before Willis starts.

Just my opinion.
 
IMO, the Starters: Ulis, Briscoe, Willis, Poythress, and Skal.
6th Man: Lee
Mulder and Hawkins provide reasonable support from the bench.
I haven't had a chance to see Matthews play, but he appears to have the potential to get into the rotation.

Should be an interesting and fun season. We'll need to work hard on conditioning, because some guys will play big minutes throughout the year.
 
Willis wont start, at least not at first. Mulder or Matthews will start to begin the season. My guess is that it'll be Matthews.
 
Starters
PG: Ulis
SG: Briscoe
SF: Matthews
PF: Poythress
C: Skal

Bench
Lee
Mulder
Hawkins
Willis
 
If Willis is good enough to start over mulder/Matthews then we may have a squad.

He seems to have a decent stroke and above average athleticism. Now he needs to put in the work and not muck up when he gets his opportunity.
This. I would love for Derek to step up and start because that means he has busted his ass for the starting job.
 
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