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Maybe the above chart is one of those "unskewed" varieties. Remember how in 2012 the "Lame Stream" media was getting the polling all wrong, so the GOP created "Unskewed" polling data that showed Romney winning in a landslide?
I'm not saying growth has been great, but the economy has at least stabilized since the near economic collapse Bush left us with.
I'm not saying growth has been great, but the economy has at least stabilized since the near economic collapse Bush left us with.
Which of Obama's policies have actually benefited the economy?
And please, if you think "stock market equals economy" then you are a goddam idiot and don't even attempt to answer the question.
And please, if you think "stock market equals economy" then you are a goddam idiot and don't even attempt to answer the question.
What did you think the economy would do after a near collapse? Get worse? Being marginally better than a total failure isn't something to be proud of. Especially being marginally better for an extended period of time. We are 7 years on from a bad economic event and are still below what is required for a "healthy" economy. "Stabilizing" at this point in the process is not good, because a better term would be "stagnating."
Also, 12 states are still below the total number of full time workers they had in 2008. That's a damn fine recovery we got going on here, yes siree.
Also, 12 states are still below the total number of full time workers they had in 2008. That's a damn fine recovery we got going on here, yes siree.
Maybe the above chart is one of those "unskewed" varieties. Remember how in 2012 the "Lame Stream" media was getting the polling all wrong, so the GOP created "Unskewed" polling data that showed Romney winning in a landslide?
I'm not saying growth has been great, but the economy has at least stabilized since the near economic collapse Bush left us with.
Forcing the banking industry to loan money to folks who can't afford to pay it back resulted in the recession, not Bush. The problem is Carter's creation (CRA). Clinton put that program on steroids.
Blaming Bush is for the recession is like blaming McGovern for Watergate.
One of the main problems I always have with these reports, is "unemployment" isn't even a measurement of people actually unemployed. Its a hilarious manipulation. It doesn't even count people that aren't actively seeking employment. So tons of deadbeats, check drawers, and people who have been "unemployed" for too long aren't even counted.
Check it out, the Compassionate Conservative raised federal per capita spending from about $9000/person to $12,422 person, whereas the Tax and Spend Liberal has managed so far to keep per capita spending flat. Imagine that. I wonder how Transyboy will spin this one 
Kudos to H. W. the only president since Kennedy to leave office with a lower per capita spending figure. Honorable mention, Slick Willie who came close.
http://mercatus.org/publication/rise-capita-federal-spending
Kudos to H. W. the only president since Kennedy to leave office with a lower per capita spending figure. Honorable mention, Slick Willie who came close.
http://mercatus.org/publication/rise-capita-federal-spending
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Why would you think I am fan or apologist for GWB's economic policies? Especially when I have explicitly discussed how awful they were. Other than, as already stated, you are an idiot you can only see a binary political system where only teams exist.
Your chart really doesn't even prove your point, either. So Obama's *average* spending is higher than all of GWB's, save one year? That's what you are bragging about? Are you counting the sequester as an Obama victory as well? You don't even believe in nor understand the policies you support, you just go with the team. You really are the lowest common denominator when it comes to politics as sport.
Your chart really doesn't even prove your point, either. So Obama's *average* spending is higher than all of GWB's, save one year? That's what you are bragging about? Are you counting the sequester as an Obama victory as well? You don't even believe in nor understand the policies you support, you just go with the team. You really are the lowest common denominator when it comes to politics as sport.
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So Defense was on here fully supporting every dime that was spent during the last year of Bush's term with a fully Democrat congress while most of the posters called him an idiot, and now he's trying to get the fiscal conservatives on here to justify the spending? And Obama's a saint because he took that astronomical baseline basically and kept it that high?
Jobs are a Liberal;s worst enemy. If everyone had a job, the Liberal agenda of keeping as many people (poor) dependent on the government would mean they would never win another election. Anyone working for a living don't want to pay half their earnings in taxes. Poor people are enslaved, and they don't realize it.
I appreciate your words. To me, you are the embodiment of a the type of voter the Republicans need to win elections.
I am NOT a Republican. I vote for a person, not a political party, not that YOU would know what that means.
I hope the next President's attorney general starts passing out indictments the day they are sworn in to office.
Cause prolonged drought in the food producing areas of California have nothing to do with it.
Nor the losses from the bird flu in poultry or the PED virus in the pork.
The increased demand for corn in ethanol production.
Even the fact than your average meal travels 1500 miles from farm to plate from a less diversified supply chain.
Political propaganda that didn't help average American.
Much like finding WMD's in Iraq.
Not at all alike.
Both Dems and Repubs thought there were WMDs; that's why they both voted to invade.
No Repubs and very few Dems believed in "Recovery Summer".
I went to the grocery store yesterday. The shelves were full, lots of variety... oh wait, you couldn't get ground beef for under $5/lb? Awww.... The Russians under Soviet rule think you are being pussies.
The Iraq Resolution 126 Democrat House members voted against it, only 6 Republicans said nay.
If very few Dems didn't believe in the Recovery Act, then why did it pass 244-188 in the House with 177 nays being Republican?
True they are different.
One spent money on domestic recovery and infrastructure. $800 billion cost
The other spent money and lives on a takeover, recovery and rebuilt infrastructure on foreign soil. $2 trillion dollar cost conservatively and 4489 US troops, 3455 US contractors dead
global warming and climate change are both a hoax... But hell yeah throwing more money at it is a solution... Just look what it has done for poverty and education in the United States... all those TRILLIONS of dollars have really been worth it...just look at Baltimore perfect example
Man, no wonder us Atheists get a bad name. Ironic you choose Noah. No one would listen to Noah (hence global warmists people). Ironic you choose Noah. Feeling some Transference?
For all the Repugs who said HRC was not engaged leading up to the 9/11 Benghazi attack, via Politico:
At 5:50 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2012 — hours before news reports would first show footage from the compound attack — Clinton was emailing about Libya. Her request to close aide Huma Abedin? Nothing indicating any concerns about security on the anniversary of al Qaeda’s deadliest attack. Instead, Clinton asked for a copy of Bernard Henri-Levi’s film that appeared at the Cannes Film Festival.
At 5:50 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2012 — hours before news reports would first show footage from the compound attack — Clinton was emailing about Libya. Her request to close aide Huma Abedin? Nothing indicating any concerns about security on the anniversary of al Qaeda’s deadliest attack. Instead, Clinton asked for a copy of Bernard Henri-Levi’s film that appeared at the Cannes Film Festival.
Al Jazeera Arabic has a pro Sunni Muslim bias, and it's viewership is largely Sunni - Sunni Muslims would love to see the overthrown of the governments of Iraq and Syria which are in the control of Shiite Muslims. This poll is reflects the Sunni hatred of the dominating Shiite governments of Iraq and Syria, not the general feeling of middle east people towards ISIS.
To put it another way, this would be like some Fox News poll from 2005 asking its viewers if they supported the Iraq war - which they overwhelmingly did of course.
Maybe you could do some research and stop being willfully ignorant about middle east opinions about ISIS. But it's just easier to latch on to a sensational headline that fits your agenda, right? Btw, haven't been to, or cited the HRC website - that's just you talking out of your ass again.
FYI, your source of opinion. This website is devoted to just putting out candidates quotes and their platform from their speeches and stated platform. Propaganda for the mindless.
Why don't you spell out her main objectives, with her record as a sign they are legitimate?
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Just laughing my ass off that someone is spinning that poll to make it something other than yet another sign of why ISIS is growing.
Relatedly Ash Carter actually criticized Iraq for being cowards, which is true, and we sent our hairplugged and tanned clown of a VP to apologize immediately to soothe their hurt feelings.
Relatedly Ash Carter actually criticized Iraq for being cowards, which is true, and we sent our hairplugged and tanned clown of a VP to apologize immediately to soothe their hurt feelings.
That site is in no way affiliated with HRC. You said I get my info from her website, which is false. Stop making stuff up.
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You need only watch and or read the news in any venue to see how the middle east feels about us. When attacked, you can see thousands dancing in the streets with joy. Now, some media outlets try and hide it as much as they can but, eventually the truth comes out. Quit listening to the Obama, Reid, Pelosi, blog report and start learning what is really going on.
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