You know what they say: one man's unloading of a dishwasher is another man's fight for [insert fundamental right]! Work hard, maybe. Learn the value of busting your ass off, maybe. Struggle?
Millennials
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You know what they say: one man's unloading of a dishwasher is another man's fight for [insert fundamental right]! Work hard, maybe. Learn the value of busting your ass off, maybe. Struggle?
Trust me, I want better than I had for my kid. But my kids will be, by my tax bracket, upper class raised, catholic school educated and college educated. My wife has a doctorate so education is emphasized. So my point is, my kid will have advantages and opportunities. But she will work and not have crap handed to her. So in struggle, I mean enough rope to where she can get close to hanging herself. Some struggle and adversity is good. Having your parents hand you $100 bills and a clean BMW with a full tank of gas...I'm sorry, just teaches you how to hold your hand out.
^can't the catholicism guilt them into doing right?
The e-struggle so real. Just wait till your little princess gets torn apart by social media sites. You old people don't know e-struggle...
...till your ashley madison account is hacked! HA! How's it feel.
...till your ashley madison account is hacked! HA! How's it feel.
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Coming up, me and my friends looked up to folks like Houdini, The Lone Ranger, Bruce Lee, and Rob Dibble.
Today's generation looks up Justin Beiber and reality tv. If I'm taking a hill, the first group is coming with me.
Today's generation looks up Justin Beiber and reality tv. If I'm taking a hill, the first group is coming with me.
Honestly, the year 2000-2010 is one of the most dramatic decades and I think will be considered that when we look back at it many years from now. Internet changed the world, it really did. I think that's the main thing. So many more opportunities to interact with and see other cultures, people, and things. Its really kind of ridiculous when you see movies like Back to the Future II and the Fifth Element and see how stupid their thoughts about the future are, because quite frankly not even the most creative of people could have ever imagined what the internet would do to our lives.
Just a couple of thoughts, as someone who is considered a millennial, that may or may not even necessarily all fit together:
- I think we're the first generation where things were actually convenient. Our toys weren't really dangerous. We could toss pizza bites in the microwave, we could watch cartoons any time of day, we could play video games, we could be social without actually being around other people. Technology just framed the world in a different way.
- Somewhat related to that, I think we're a generation of affluence. For the first time, our parents were able to build a life beyond the farm or the factory, and so in many cases, it allowed for those comforts that previous generations didn't have across the board. A poor kid now grows up with air conditioning and internet. Just a different world.
- Not working 17 hours a day on a farm, and not seeing the world as ending at your property line, creates a different mindset of others, yourself, the country, the world, etc. Everything is connected now, we can know about whatever we want to know with a few clicks and keystrokes, and that changes your thinking. It eliminates fear and bias and prejudice based on ignorance.
- Being able to do so much and experience so much from a position of comfort and safety and convenience probably makes us appear soft to a generation that had to walk to school or build their own house at 17 years old.
-I think we've been raised/trained to be as efficient as possible. If there's a faster or easier or more effective way to do something, many of us find it and take that route. That's only seen as a bad thing because the previous generations were raised without those options and felt like the struggle built character.
-Every generation in history has apparently thought the next generation would be the downfall of civilization. The same boomers who cry about my generation were seen as heathens and hippies and devil worshippers by their folks.
- I think we're the first generation where things were actually convenient. Our toys weren't really dangerous. We could toss pizza bites in the microwave, we could watch cartoons any time of day, we could play video games, we could be social without actually being around other people. Technology just framed the world in a different way.
- Somewhat related to that, I think we're a generation of affluence. For the first time, our parents were able to build a life beyond the farm or the factory, and so in many cases, it allowed for those comforts that previous generations didn't have across the board. A poor kid now grows up with air conditioning and internet. Just a different world.
- Not working 17 hours a day on a farm, and not seeing the world as ending at your property line, creates a different mindset of others, yourself, the country, the world, etc. Everything is connected now, we can know about whatever we want to know with a few clicks and keystrokes, and that changes your thinking. It eliminates fear and bias and prejudice based on ignorance.
- Being able to do so much and experience so much from a position of comfort and safety and convenience probably makes us appear soft to a generation that had to walk to school or build their own house at 17 years old.
-I think we've been raised/trained to be as efficient as possible. If there's a faster or easier or more effective way to do something, many of us find it and take that route. That's only seen as a bad thing because the previous generations were raised without those options and felt like the struggle built character.
-Every generation in history has apparently thought the next generation would be the downfall of civilization. The same boomers who cry about my generation were seen as heathens and hippies and devil worshippers by their folks.
The internet became widely used in the 1990's. AOL was founded in 1991. The 2000's simply found more uses for it and made it portable.
^ I think younger millennials heard about Vietnam and "I did not watch my buddies die face down in the muck so that this %^&*ing strumpet..."
Windows 95 made it mainstream. That's when things like amazon and ebay and playboy.com came to be. High speed internet didn't become mainstream until the 2000's. I remember in 99 starting college and having ethernet and thinking how ridiculous it was. Listening to music, watching videos, complete gamechanger. The 2000's is when the internet was a common thing, not the 90s. Not really debatable.
I was still using dial up for Internet in the late 90s. It wasn't pervasive until the 2000s, just another tool. Now, just about everything is a tool for the Internet.
Internet use was not wide spread in the early 1990's. Only a few diehard computer nerds sending each other electronic mail back then or using a chat board.
According to the stats that I found, in the US 1990 internet use was 6/1000 people. In 2005 it was 630/1000.
The next generation is always the worse, been going on for centuries.
The parents who grew up in the 60s and early 70s lived through one of the most tumultuous eras in American history as far as civil unrest and just having this feeling that the world was becoming a much worse place than when they were kids. I blame the Cold War.
The parents who grew up in the 60s and early 70s lived through one of the most tumultuous eras in American history as far as civil unrest and just having this feeling that the world was becoming a much worse place than when they were kids. I blame the Cold War.
15 million homes had an AOL subscription by 1999. Obviously that was just one service. That is quite a bit more than few nerds.
Weren't we illegally downloading music by 1999? Shit yea we were. I was 13. Trolling, porn, and illegal music were in any household that had a male teen.
Windows 95 was released in.....1995. You admit that your college had it by 1999. You defeat your own argument that the internet was not a common thing until post 2000.
But even at that point, the internet was largely a novelty and a minority of homes had a connection.
The cutoff I've heard for Millennial is 1982, including everyone who turned 18 in or after the year 2000. And yes, there are some serious between those of us on the older end, who saw the always-connected world develop as we grew up and the younger ones who grew up with it largely in place. But there's also a pretty big difference between someone born in 1946 and someone born in 1963, despite both being baby boomers. It's the difference between graduating from high school just before the civil rights act was passed, or growing up with it always having existed. It's the difference between being among the first drafted into Vietnam, and having the US participation in the war over by the time you hit middle school. Living the 60s as a teen and young adult vs having vague memories of the end of the 60s is a very difference experience.
Go back and read my original post. I didn't say early 1990's; you did. My post said "The internet became widely used in the 1990's". 1999 is part of the the 90's. I mentioned that AOL was founded in 1991 so obviously I wasn't talking about the year 1990.
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Didn't know massive swaths of the U.S. population were drafted to serve in Kuwait, Bosnia, Afghanistan, etc
Ask yourself this........have you ever owned a Nokia brick? Do you even know wtf that is?
If not, you're a Millennial.
If not, you're a Millennial.
Charitable causes, i.e. we'd like to use your money to adopt a child.
Gingersnaps, marbles, jacks, and pick-up sticks were all we had, and we got by.
Today's generation don't know how good they have it.
Today's generation don't know how good they have it.
Sorry I misread the intent of your post. You mentioned 1990s, followed by specifically mentioning AOL in 1991. This was in a reply to Ron Mehico who threw out the dates 2000-2010. Then I responded and specifically stated that internet use was not widespread in the early 1990s and linked a source (not sure why you have a problem with that).
Perhaps if you had just stated AOL usage numbers from 1999, to begin with, it would have saved some confusion. I don't think many people would split hairs over 1999 vs. 2000.
Windows 95 began the whole damn thing.....in 1995. BEGAN. Not made it wide stream, not made it a common thing that everyone had 3 months after it was released. These things take time you know. In the year 2000 if you were still using snail mail and didn't have an email it wasn't that big of a deal. I first used email in 1999 and I was an 18 year old college kid AKA into new stuff and toys. If you didn't have email in 2010 you were either African or 10 years from death. From 2000-2010 internet went from being "common" to rich white american people to basically becoming the equivalent to owning a telephone. In 2000 people still read the newspaper and phone book. In 2010 the phone book wasn't even a thing anymore and the newspapers were going out of business.
The period 2000-2010 is when the internet went from being a novelty to being almost a necessity. That was my point. That's when a lot of change happened, with smartphones and texting and blackberry's and social media etc. etc. Its when the internet took off and pretty much anyone born during the 2000's probably has a completely different perspective than people born before that period. Like people who grew up listening to the radio vs. watching tv.
Ask yourself this.....did you ever sneak out of your room to the computer at night to chat with hot sluts who were dudes in the AOL lesbian chat room?
If not, then you're a Millennial.
If not, then you're a Millennial.
