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GonzoCat90 v. CoolCat9Lives NBA GM Draft Round 1

Which team is best suited to win now and in the future?


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GonzoCat90

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Please vote for the roster you feel is best arranged as a franchise, with regard to winning now and also being strong in the future.

GonzoCat90
PG- Damian Lillard (24), Ty Lawson (28), Patrick Beverley (26)
SG- DeMar DeRozan (25), Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (21), JR Smith (29)
SF- Draymond Green (25), Robert Covington (25)
PF Anthony Davis (22), Derrick Favors (23)
C- Joakim Noah (29), Roy Hibbert (28)

coolcat9lives
PG-Kyrie Irving (23) (Dennis Schroder, 21)
SG-Bradley Beal (21) (Lou Williams, 28)
SF-Nicolas Batum (26) (Gerald Green 29, Derrick Williams, 24)
PF-Blake Griffin (26) (Thaddeus Young, 26 Trey Lyles, 19)
C- Al Jefferson (30) (Robin Lopez, 27)
 
I'll go ahead and make the case for my squad.

With today's NBA, and with the multiple approaches taken by owners in this draft, I wanted to be prepared for anything.

Obviously, the focal point of any franchise is its best player, and with Anthony Davis, I feel like I have one of the league's top 2-3 players for the next decade-plus. He finished the year averaging 24 points, 10 rebounds, 3 blocks and 1.5 steals with great percentages and one of the highest PER's of all-time, all at age 22. He's the best two-way player in the league, and only getting better, and gives me incredible flexibility.

Next up, Damian Lillard. At 24, he's one of the most clutch players in the league, and is a dynamic scorer from the PG spot. He scored 21 points, dished an impressive 6 assists per game, grabbed 4.6 rebounds from the 1 position, and added 1.4 steals while making two and a half threes per game. He also has extensive experience thriving with a versatile pick-and-pop big, helping LaMarcus Aldridge have his best seasons as a pro since he showed up in Portland. He's the perfect compliment to Davis.

Third, Draymond Green. The league's best and most versatile defender finished second in the most improved player voting this year, and his emergence is one of the primary factors that pushed Golden State over the top to a title. He's the only guy in the league who can match up with elite guards and bigs on defense, and he can play the 2-5 positions, as he finished top-20 in rebounding while also knocking down 1.5 threes a game in addition to his 1.3 blocks and 1.6 steals. Additionally, he's one of the best teammates, role players, glue guys, instigators, competitors and all-around players in the NBA.

Next, DeMar DeRozan. At just 25, he's already a lock to score 20+ per night and has for multiple seasons. He's one of the league's best athletes and always finishes among the top 10 players in FT attempts per year. At 6'7, and with his length and athleticism, he can play either wing spot, and despite already being an all-star caliber player, his upside is as high as any SG in the league. As a third scoring option next to Davis and Lillard, his slashing will be a nightmare.

Rounding out my starting lineup is Joakim Noah. The best passing big man in the game, Noah carried the Bulls for two seasons while Rose was injured, finishing third in last year's MVP voting. He's consistently been one of the game's elite defenders, and his impressive shooting and FT percentages as a big man means I can leave the lane completely open on offense if I need to. Similar to Green, he's one of the NBA's best teammates, biggest instigators and fiercest competitors.

This gives me 5 guys capable of grabbing the rebound (all good rebounders) and leading the break, and give guys who can score inside, outside and off the dribble, while also touting three of the NBA's best defenders in Davis, Green and Noah.

Off the bench, I have options to play any way I need to play. Lawson (18 points, 9 assists) can play alongside Lillard in a small ball lineup or run my second unit as a transition and shooting based squad. I can sub in Beverley (another of the league's best defenders and toughest competitors) for defense, or play any two of the three together.

On the wing I have KCP (one of the league's best young shooters and most promising scorers) and the ultimate game changer, big game/big shot maker and wildcard JR Smith, who I can only use for his bright spots and don't need consistency from. Either can come in as a shooting specialist (we saw how effective Smith was in that role in Cleveland, and how Korver and others have thrived there on good teams) off the bench, or even alongside Lillard for even more outside punch.

Added to them is Robert Covington, a 24 year old, 6'9 athlete who flourished for the Sixers this year (which is why no one has heard of him) making 2 threes a contest and who can guard multiple positions.

Down low, I have a guy who would start for virtually every other team in this contest, Derrick Favors, who had a massive breakout season this year averaging 16 points, 8 boards, 1.7 blocks while shooting 53-percent from the field and finishing with a PER of 22. At 6'10, 250, he can play either post spot, and he's one of the best (and longest) athletes in the NBA. Oh, and he's barely 23 and was recently given the playing time he deserved in Utah.

Rounding out the roster is another of the league's best rim protectors, Roy Hibbert. Opponents simply cant score inside with him in the game, and with athletes like Davis, Favors, Noah and Green alongside him, his one weakness (defending the pick and roll) will be nullified. What's left is an air craft carrier of a human who scores efficiently, owns the paint, and can be used to bang down low with anyone "too big" for Davis and company, all while being surrounded by floor spacers.

In short, I can go small, I can go huge, I can go finesse, I can go physical, and I have the best collection of defenders and size in the competition. Alongside a stable of freak athletes and proven young scorers, there's no style I can't match up with, and in nearly all cases, it will be my team imposing its style on others.
 
I could have saved you all that time by simply pointing out that you have Davis and Lillard. Not a whole lot left to be said after that.
 
Didn't realize that was such a wall of text. Tried to keep the paragraphs brief but I guess that's a lot of info to try and communicate. Sorry about that.

tl;dr version: I have tons of defense, versatility and size and four of the best young players in the league.


I could win the title this season and only Noah and Hibbert have played their best basketball.
 
Catpaw says: This is a very close call. Both teams have one former Wildcat so we go to the tie breaker. One team has Joakim Noah and the other team has Kyrie Irving. It's still a close call but we have our first major upset in round 1...

Slim advantage: coolcat9lives

{{Sidenote: Very, very disappointed in Gonzo because this isn't his first Catpaw fake NBA GM draft rodeo. I think Vincent Vega said it best, "You shoulda better known better".}}
 
I'll make the case for my team.

My starting lineup fits together pretty well. We only have two "ball dominant" players in Kyrie and Blake. Both are also good playmakers with Blake being on of the best frontcourt playmakers in the league (5.7 APG). Blake also scores and rebounds well (21.7 PPG 7.6 RPG). Kyrie has the ability to heat up quick and is a decent distributor as well (21.7 PPG 5.2 APG) He is the primary option in my team'a offense.

Bradley Beal is the next piece to my starting line-up. Beal will be the third option and possesses good scoring ability (15.3 PPG). Beal will be counted upon to hit open threes (41 percent). He also has great slashing ability which will keep the defense honest.

Nicolas Batum and Al Jefferson will be specialists in a sense. Batum is a do it all forward who will stuff the stat sheet (9.4 PPG 6 RPG 4.8 AST 1.1 SPG). Batum's most valuable skill is the ability to guard multiple positions, he will guard the other teams best perimeter player. Al Jefferson is a throwback center who will anchor the middle (16.6 PPG 8.4 RPG 1.3 BLKS). Jefferson will benefit from the added attention Blake will get with open jumpers and easy lay ins. Jeffersons one on one post ability give us another option on offense and he could see run with the second unit to give him more scoring opprotunities.

I think the strength of my bench is versatility. 5 of my 7 bench player can play at least two positions on the court. This allows for flexibility with my line-up changes. Thaddeus Young is another do it all forward (14.1 PPG 5.4 RPG 2.3 APG 1.6 SPG). Young will be the sixth man but may end up getting more minutes than Batum because he is a little more versatile on offense. He is another body on defense that can guard multiple positions. Derrick Williams will also be counted on to provide some of the saMe things but in a lesser role.

Lou Williams and Gerald Green are my gunners. Their percentages from three aren't great (34 and 35 percent respectively) but they are high volume shooters who will make their share of attempts.

Both Green and Williams will benefit greatly when Schroeder is in the game. Schroeder attacks and collapses the defense on almost every possession. He has the ability to score at the rim or kick to the open man (10 PPG 4.1 APG)

Robin Lopez will anchor the paint and bring great energy (9.6 PPG 6.7 RPG). He really doesn't have any other responsibilities than to rebound and score on open looks. Trey Lyles is the last member of the reserves. Trey will be brought along slow in the first few years. Williams and Young are moveable pieces once his development begins to progress.
 
It's absolutely closer than the votes show, although I think his team would be weak defensively. I also think people here don't appreciate how good Blake Griffin and Kyrie Irving are, but I know my squad has guys like Noah and Hibbert that people hate and a guy like Covington that they don't know at all, so I figure that balances out a little.

Still several hours left to vote though, and maybe all the folks who like his players are night shift posters.
 
same here, who seeded this tourney, is there a Duke Region?

It wasn't "seeded." I just did a random drawing to match up teams. Didn't pay attention to the strength/balance of any of the teams so far, but I wasn't thrilled to face what I think is a tough squad in round one. Honestly though, there were no "easy" match ups as I think everyone did a good job building a roster.
 
I think I'm taking the loss simply because of a young man by the name of Anthony Davis.

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honestly i picked gonzo because his team looks way better defensively. he also has a nice/versatile perimeter for the future and in present to go along with future mvp imo ad. coolcat has nice firepower and some muscle up front to hound ad. however i think griffin benefits a lot more from chris paul individually speaking then he would with irving. but offensively for a team offense irving/griffin pick and roll could be deadly now that blake developed a mid range jump shot. that would've been interesting to watch. nice job, nice team, i just prize defense A LOT.
 
honestly i picked gonzo because his team looks way better defensively. he also has a nice/versatile perimeter for the future and in present to go along with future mvp imo ad. coolcat has nice firepower and some muscle up front to hound ad. however i think griffin benefits a lot more from chris paul individually speaking then he would with irving. but offensively for a team offense irving/griffin pick and roll could be deadly now that blake developed a mid range jump shot. that would've been interesting to watch. nice job, nice team, i just prize defense A LOT.

Yeah I did what I could on the defensive end. It was slim pickin' around my draft slot.
 
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Yeah I did what I could on the defensive end. It was slim pickin' around my draft slot.
i know what you mean. it's a stars league, and the first few picks basically determines your whole draft. it sucks but seeing teams built around different stars is the fun of it. i think you surrounded blake and irving very well for the future.
 
i know what you mean. it's a stars league, and the first few picks basically determines your whole draft. it sucks but seeing teams built around different stars is the fun of it. i think you surrounded blake and irving very well for the future.

Yeah this is definitely a fun thing to do! Hopefully I earned my stripes and @GonzoCat90 slides me into a more desirable position next year lol.
 
Please vote for the roster you feel is best arranged as a franchise, with regard to winning now and also being strong in the future.

GonzoCat90
PG- Damian Lillard (24), Ty Lawson (28), Patrick Beverley (26)
SG- DeMar DeRozan (25), Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (21), JR Smith (29)
SF- Draymond Green (25), Robert Covington (25)
PF Anthony Davis (22), Derrick Favors (23)
C- Joakim Noah (29), Roy Hibbert (28)

coolcat9lives
PG-Kyrie Irving (23) (Dennis Schroder, 21)
SG-Bradley Beal (21) (Lou Williams, 28)
SF-Nicolas Batum (26) (Gerald Green 29, Derrick Williams, 24)
PF-Blake Griffin (26) (Thaddeus Young, 26 Trey Lyles, 19)
C- Al Jefferson (30) (Robin Lopez, 27)

Close, but ultimately I like the defensive potential of GonzoCat90's team a bit more. 2 of the worst PG defenders in the game (and best offensive PGs), close to a wash for me, although Lawson is a supremely talented backup. I'd take Beal/Lou over Gonzo's SGs, but it's close. SF I like Green and Covington is underrated. Slight edge to Gonzo. PF... that's a mighty strong 1-2 by Gonzo, although with Favors you'd prefer a better shooting center. If Noah is healthy, the high-low works, but I don't think he will be. C edge to CoolCat, but more for Robin Lopez. Think he fits the team better. Al Jefferson as a bench monster? Love it.
 
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