For All Cal Bashers; 2010-15 Is 3rd Best 6 Year Run In UK's Glorious History
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There will always be someone who will bash Cal, just like this yr 38 and 1, there was a few, cannot make some people happy no matter what..
There really aren't any cal bashers at all IMO. There are critics including myself, who some consider a basher if you ever dare question anything cal does in coaching.
Record breaking year, 38-1, Banner worthy year, Makes UK tie with the most lottery picks and #1 draft pics for a school, and some think it's a dissappoint year, or as some donkey's call it.., "a complete failure".
These guys look for some negative to harp on during the entire off season.
Plus there's a difference in questioning certain calls/actions that he does compared to harping over and over every chance they get to call it a "complete failure".
It's crazy to see some so called UK fans quote the most hate filled posts rivals make on their boards. Over and over and over again here.
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It's one thing to critique Cal, and it's another thing to do it over and over and over regardless of the thread, or the discussion at hand. There are some posters here that will hijack an entire thread to harp on the same crap we have heard time after time. Big difference.
A lot of us on this board suffer from the inability to give another team credit. In 2014, UConn beat Michigan State, a team everyone on ESPN picked to win it all, then Florida, a team many others picked to win it all, then Kentucky. They weren't a fluke. In 2015, Wisconsin beat North Carolina, Arizona and Kentucky in succession. Looking at last season, that's pretty damn strong. But some of us insist on the narrative that UK lost to inferior teams. Maybe if we play seven times, yes we win four. But if we played Wichita St, Louisville, Michigan, Wisconsin and Notre Dame best-of-seven, I bet we'd get knocked off in one of those series.
Look, we should have won it last year. Let's be honest. We know it, we all know it. Last year our team was amazing, we had the best team, and things just didn't ever seem to click in the tournament outside of the WVU game. Don't know if the kids tightened up or what, but last year was a missed opportunity for history. But it happens in a one game tournament. Just like Duke should have won it all with their ridiculously loaded roster in 1999, just like KU should have at least gone to the final four in 2010, just like the patriots should have finished off their record undefeated season and then blew it to Eli F'in Manning. Just like Alabama last year for some reason went pass happy against OSU. Its just the nature of a tournament, and we're going to really start to see it with the new college football tourney even though that will be only 4 teams. The fact of the matter is the NCAA tourney is really our only experience with a college tournament, and its 68 teams. How many wildcard teams have gone on to win the NFL championship? A lot if you actually take a look at it. Its just the nature of tournaments. It doesn't mean Calipari is a bad coach and will never win again, its just sports. As long as we are in the hunt every year that's all you can reasonably ask.
Well, that's the sort of comments a basher makes. The guys record here is as good as its ever been. Teams are performing well. No problems with NCAA rules violation. Then we have a "special" few, such as yourself, who claim to be "critics". These so called critics relentlessly hack away with the same pointless comments at a coach who as performed as well as any in Kentucky history. Then these critics pound their chests saying they have the right to comment, which they do. Then these critics cry and whine when someone rebuts their comments.
Generally someone that finds negativity in times of plenty is hardly considered objective. In recent times, these "special" few are often called haters or bashers by everyone except themselves.
One other thing they have in common. They don't like standing in the light.
I hate to get into this more, but you have some revisionist history there.
You have stated Cal is not a good enough coach to win another title.
You have stated Cal should have (not could have) countless times.
This screams attention... Look at me
I thought you were just contrerian, now it's clear your just baiting.
I think mods will see this pattern of inconsistencies and finally just see you are a troll.
Ignore for me. I suggest others do the same
Still think people are by now taking for granted that he's working every year with a new cast and consistently relies on 18 year old freshmen. That has to be factored in. If he had the most talent and that talent was junior/senior level, then you'd be talking about Dean Smith. But that's not what it is.....
On the "no one is bashing only criticizing" comment, it's all relative. With Cal's record, no one could conceivably say "he's terrible" - mere criticism nearly amounts to bashing when you're talking about that kind of record. Saying that Kate Upton is just merely attractive amounts to a bash - no one could say she's butt ugly......
On the "no one is bashing only criticizing" comment, it's all relative. With Cal's record, no one could conceivably say "he's terrible" - mere criticism nearly amounts to bashing when you're talking about that kind of record. Saying that Kate Upton is just merely attractive amounts to a bash - no one could say she's butt ugly......
Good comment. Commentary offered once is just that. Commentary. Criticism offered repetitively, particularly when its based entirely on hindsight is bashing in my book.
Also, I will make an exception in Kate Upton's case. She can bash whomever she wants while she's doing that "cat daddy" dance.
So you agree that you are repetitive with the same crap nonstop. Then you say it isn't true?
Why do you think we need a constant reminder of games we thought we should have won but were beaten?
You might not want to be standing on a very tall wall next to some these guys you call stupid...
First of all you don't have to shout, secondly hay is for horses, and yes we remember, 8 National Championships.
The report post finally worked in getting 3rex banned. This Cut Nets dude is going down that same path. Everyone just needs to keep hitting the report button on him, and he won't make it to basketball season, if he keeps it up.
Lol why? I've been on here for 6 years. I'm not going anywhere chief.
"He doesn't have my same opinion, ban him ban him!!"
There is certainly nothing wrong with comments being made that we should have at least one more title during Cal's tenure. It certainly has not been due to a lack of talent. Young talent, yes, but we also won it with Young talent in 2012 and youthfulness has not been the reason we lost in the games I have been most critical of Cal. Played a part, perhaps, but despite being in position to win it more we have not and mostly from my stand point due to bad coaching decisions that have nothing to do with the personnel. As great is Cal is as a coach, he could be even better if he expanded his coaching philosophy. I think all coaches have their shortcomings and it is mostly between their ears. They obviously have the knowledge but are typically to stubborn to see the simplest of things that could be done to make their teams even better and improve their chances of winning.
Cal's biggest deficiency as a coach is he simply will not dictate the tempo of the game or even try. He implements very little strategy for a game and rarely will he ever change much of anything up. He is an extremely easy coach for an opposing coach to game plan for because you know exactly how his team will play. Our 2015 team should have been a nightmare for any opposing coach/team to prepare for yet as the year went along we became easier and easier to score against. Now why do you think that is? With 5 minutes to go in the Wisconsin game, they were gassed and running on fumes, time to put the medal to the pedal and put this game away. Nope, dribble the freaking shot clock out with an insurmountable 4 point lead and get three straight shot clock violations. Was that the players, perhaps, but if it were Cal should have made it known to put this game away. Put Ulis in the game and tell him to push it. Play to win, not to not lose which is also a bad trait of Cal that he needs to overcome. Wisconsin had a really good team, We had a GREAT team. We lost due to coaching, which is hard to take. We were there due to Cal, I agree with that, but most of you will never admit when his coaching cost us a game or games.
If you are going to give him credit for beating teams that were better (OSU and UNC in 2011), then why does he not also get the blame or at least share the blame for losing when his teams were immensely more talented?
You're lucky cut, In the old days it would have been, burn
I'm not sure if there is anyone on here who thinks that Cal is perfect but if they do, I wouldn't want to read it everyday in posts about Cal. It's the same about his faults, share your opinion and refrain from making it an agenda in every post about Cal. Both would and do get old after hundreds of threads.
Glad you have enough movie knowledge to recognize that my profile pic is from Born on the 4th of July. Great movie.
As if we don't all know what could have been? Cal is not the greatest coach in coaching history, we know that too. Most of us here have critiqued and criticized Cal.
But to bring up the upsets and shit on Cal in every thread, most of which are on another topic, is annoying. You may disagree and prefer to dwell on it like Cuts.
You want some WHINE with that cheese? You written nothing new. Nothing we haven't heard dozens upon dozens of times before. Nothing that is anything more than the triviality of hindsight. You've never coached a single division 1 game. You've never coached a single game in the NCAA tournament. You've never coached a team which was undefeated at that level. You've never tried to get that many young players to gel into a team to compete at that level. You have no credibility.
No team is ever entitled to anything, though you suggest they are. The 2015 teams performance was not dependent in the least on the 2012 teams performance. Again, just pointless and trivial assertions.
GIven all this, I find no reason whatsoever to consider you anything but an unreasonable fan who got his feeling hurt cause his team lost. One who lacks the maturity to understand that somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. One who fails to acknowledge the play of an opposing team while opting to trashing the one he supposedly supports. I don't see any basis for credibility of your comments. I can't find any grounds that others, in particular Calipari's employers that would even give such drivel the time of day. By the definition I gave before, this puts you into the realm of a hater and basher of the Kentucky Wildcats and their coach. I'm sure that the UL, Duke and INC fans thank you for your contribution to Rupp's Rafters.
His reply seemed more like a visit to the psych office, laying on a chair. Just had to get it out. Needed someone to hear his take on the situation.
I'm glad he did, I almost forgotten all of these moments... oh wait no I didn't, Cuts says them everyday!
So, who should we get for a coach that won't make those mistakes?? Nobody is saying that coach cal is perfect but damn it gets old reading the same crap everyday by people that has agenda about coach cal. Some of you all sound like Pat Forde that has a hard on for coach cal.
You gotta be freaking kidding me. Calm down there big boy. His post was no where near "bashing". You are the definition of what I'm talking about on here. Someone says "damn I wish Cal would call a timeout" and you say "you've never coached at this level and you are just bashing". Are you serious. Let's just overreact a little harder next time. My God. Talk about crying.
You calm down Francis. A bunch of people have said "Damn Cal" but that is within 3 no more than months after the game is over. You guys want to keep crying about 2010? Good lord this Wisky game bitching will last until 2030.
I am surprised you haven't mentioned Joe B and the Hoyas game.
Hey just sharing my opinion. People are so fired up they're trying to get me banned. I certainly don't want a multi year ban from here. Would hate to be told I'm not allowed to be here for an extended amount of time. That would be a bone-headed move cause I love this place.
Ya, know, Brian, I always try to be a helpful guy. I really think those two should apply for work at the Lexington Herald Leader. Tipton is getting a little long in tooth. They'll be needing someone to trash the cats after he leaves. It could be sorta like Mike and Mike. Slam down some Cal and Coffee with Cuts and Cats.
You know, Cuts, I'd expect that sort of comment from Bobby Swerve from INC.
He comes here trying to build his team up. You try to tear yours down. I'm not sure which is worse. Maybe there is no difference.
Your posts are intelligently written and it would be interesting to see you discuss ANYTHING other than Cal's failures.
I'm not sure I've ever torn this team down. You are making a mountain of a molehill man. I've gone from "bashing Cal" to "tearing the team down"? When did I do this?
Hey, the guy has won everywhere he's been @JayCatz44 . He's not just some stiff posted up behind a computer screen all day. Yes I like Bruce Pearl, and think his past transgressions are pretty minor compared to others. The guy is the closest thing to Cal around in terms of marketing and building brand. Would love to see him get a crack at UK after Cal (but I know he won't and that's ok).
You'd have a point if that post was made in the heat of the moment the week after we lost. Oh, wait, it was or something similar. Over and over and over and over for months now. So, no, I'm not freaking kidding.
You didn't want to lose that game. You've beat that fact into our bloody skulls with a bashing that Mike Tyson would be proud of. I can feel your teeth in my ear making that point over and over. I'm sure there were five year old kids all over the state that felt the same way. Most likely, their parents control their access to the Internet though.
wow...Pitino got your tongue.
I did not know that a #1 seed could be vastly less talented than any other team
Yet the man has never been to a final four and what, one elite 8. Cal has taken 6 different teams to the final four, 2 of which were mid major. Yet you like to harp that Cal is not a great coach. Bruce Pearl tried to be a freaking narc and get a kid to admit a violation another school had done with him by secretly recording the conversation. That's a flat out low thing to do. Its why he was blackballed from getting a better job for over a decade. I like Pearl but that man can't hold Cal's jock. I mean you bitch about getting to the final four 4 out of 5 years and winning only one title yet your infatuated with a dude who has never even been to a final four period. Pearl took mid majors to a sweet 16, Cal took 2 different schools to the final four.
I never said Pearl was better than Cal. Just said that I like Pearl. I like Cal too. I could point out flaws with Pearl just like I can point out flaws with Cal. These guys are very similar. Both great at marketing. If Pearl doesn't scare you as an opponent think about if he were at a UNC or a UL and then see how you feel. He's not some stiff off the street or some stiff behind a computer screen. He can coach.
The would of could of game can go way back. I've been Cat fan since 1960.
We had the best team in 1966, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1984,1986,1993, 1995, 1997, 2003, 2004, 2010, 2011, 2014 and 2015.....nobody is gona win the championship just because they have the best team. UK fans know this the hard way. It dose not happen cause the tournament is such a crap shot.
Once you get past the fact that it is not life and death and just a game played by KIDS for your enjoyment you won't be so negative and or depressed....lol
