Bell, Miggins, Jackson, Gosier, Livingston
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While you might think Provitt was a replacement due to the timing of his commitment and Hamilton's flip to tO$U, that's not necessarily the case. He and Provitt didn't/wouldn't play the same position at UK so it wasn't a straight up replacement. Besides, Provitt was a lean to UK for 8 or 9 months prior to finally commiting as the coaches were waiting to see if they thought he would qualify. They finally rolled the dice and it didn't work out at this point in time but we look for him to be here in a year and a half.
technically they were all replacements but miggins and as stated by rv, provitt. the coaches ended up really liking a few of them but they weren't even looking until we had the spots open. miggins was being recruited for a while too... i just dont think we thought we'd get him til dang near signing day.
We are seeing why that these players were around for UK to get after having several players decommitt. Evidently several had shaky academics. Lets hope some of them make it. IMO Miggins is the most interesting of the bunch and probably could help this season.
The truth is a few not making it might not be a real bad thing as it would open slots for more recruits this year and UK seems to be in on some very good recruits.
The truth is a few not making it might not be a real bad thing as it would open slots for more recruits this year and UK seems to be in on some very good recruits.
This is what I've been hoping to see on all these guys. Report day is, I think, Aug 6 and Fan Day is Aug 8. Surely these guys will be making their way to Lexington in the next couple of days if they're coming.
Great news on Miggins. He and Provitt were the ones that I most wanted to qualify. It is too bad that Provitt didn't. Hopefully he can come on board after JUCO. Miggins might even get into the two deep this year. It would also be good news if Bell makes it since he plays a need position. Defensive positions IMO right now are the most critical for the Cats future They lose a lot of seniors off the defense this season.
No. Provitt is going to play in JUCO to get his courses in order. He said it himself, the college announced it, so on and so forth.
That's what I understood too re Provitt. However, on the KSR page recapping a Stoops appearance last week it said "still no word on the eligibility of Courtnet Love and Javon Provitt but Stoops hoped to know something by Media Day." Let me point out the Tyler girl was the one who reported it and it probably meant only Love. She's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. However, since I'm not a good "linker" she's probably much sharper than I am. Anyway, I thought it was an interesting comment that flew off into the horizon.
Pardon the cheap shot, but as I've said before, KSR is not exactly the go-to source for UK Football news.
Oh I know. Just thought I'd take a gander that day and came across that bit of misinformation.
JMO but she probably meant Love and Hart the other transfer.. But that's just a guess and to me would make a little more sense
If we only miss on 2 or 3 it will not be too bad since IMO most of these later recruits were chancy academically and that is why they were still available.
Another thing is that UK will be able to sign more recruits this year if a few don't make it and they seem to be in on some quality recruits so it isn't all bad.
Another thing is that UK will be able to sign more recruits this year if a few don't make it and they seem to be in on some quality recruits so it isn't all bad.
Encouraging. It'll be interesting to see how they use these 2 although Miggins is a little under sized for a SEC DT.
Miggins is slated for the big DE I believe but he could slide over to DE (not nose). He was 6'5" 285 lbs at last report. That is a pretty big fellow. He is just two weeks at the training table from 300.
He also played DE in JUCO.
Worst case scenario, stick him at inside linebacker, bet he could stop some runs lol.
I am sure him being a JUCO was recruited to play right away but he must prove he deserves to play right away in fall camp. He is getting a late start having missed spring camp and the summer conditioning period at UK. He is going to be like CJ Johnson who came in late last year and likely struggle with the finer points of the defense.
Despite the fact that JUCOs are recruited for immediate playing time I have always thought that it would be better if they could be redshirted a year to get the systems down before being thrown to the wolves. It sure helped Lewis.
Despite the fact that JUCOs are recruited for immediate playing time I have always thought that it would be better if they could be redshirted a year to get the systems down before being thrown to the wolves. It sure helped Lewis.
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Bell and Miggins make a pretty good DL much better...depth and skill.
Pass rush just improved by default
Pass rush just improved by default
We learned last year with Flannigan that juco transfers are lost in September if they miss spring practice. This shouldn't hurt Leavitt next year because he plans to come to school in January and practice in April. But it will delay Miggins and Bell earning snaps in September. We have enough returning players on our defensive line to handle things while Miggins and Bell get acquainted with the system. They should help a lot in 2016, but my expectations for them in 2015 are fairly low until they have had time to learn.
Seems like a pretty broad stroke you've painted there. No two folks are the same, ergo no two football players are the same, in ability, acumen, measurables or any other way you wish to measure them.
That's not to downplay the leg up kids get while getting that spring practice and summer with the team but to discount out of hand the ability to contribute for August enrollees seems a bit reckless to me.
agreed, plus you have to account for talent around the player and what he's asked to do. Z probably struggled a little more his first year because teams could focus on him and bud and go 1 on 1 with the dt's. bama, aub, or florida can bring in a juco and kinda hide their faults because of all the talent around that player. whole lot of juco's go pro after just 1 year in d1. its not the norm but it happens every year.
I agree that it is a broad stroke. No 2 players are the same. Miggins might not follow the same learning curve Flannigan followed. But when I look back at all the juco players at Kentucky, it has generally been true that players who came in January and practiced in April contributed earlier than players who missed April practices and got to Lexington in August. I doubt you would disagree. I am not saying Miggins can't be an exception. But my expectation for Miggins is a learning curve in September and October, followed by improvement in November and more impact in 2016. If he learns faster, so much the better. Playing time is zero sum. There is a competition, and I think the returning players are good enough to make Miggins work hard for playing time.
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